Posted on 05/14/2009 11:26:07 AM PDT by mikelets456
HA HA!
From what I’ve read and heard about anecdotally, most male homosexuals were sexually abused as children. If that’s true the only way homosexuals have to reproduce themselves is to molest little boys.
You are correct about there being no one “gene” for being “black” or “asian” in appearance. Children who have a black parent and a white parent can display physical characteristics along a continuum between the parents.
This is an interesting article on the subject of whether there is a “gay” gene.
“Bocklandt has collected DNA from two groups of 15 pairs of identical twins. In one group, both twins are gay. In the second, one twin is gay, and the other is straight. Identical twins have the same DNA, but the activity of their genes isn’t necessarily the same. The reason is something called methylation.
“Methylation turns off certain sections of genetic code. So even though we inherit two copies of every gene—one from our mother, one from our father—whether the gene is methylated often determines which of the two genes will be turned on. Methylation is inherited, just as DNA is. But unlike DNA, which has an enzyme that proofreads both the original and the copy to minimize errors, methylation has no built-in checks. It can change from one generation to the next and may be influenced by diet or environment.”
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay
Then there is also a theory that exposure to hormones in the womb influences sexual orientation.
Where is you scientific proof?
Homosexuality cannot be genetic — otherwise the gene would die out in only a few generations. Homosexuals do not reproduce fast enough to sustain existence.
Homosexuality is likely a chemical problem leading to a mental disorder. That it is likely a medical problem does not absolve its practicioners from responsibility — it merely offers and explanation as to why most people don’t have the temptation, while a some do. Resisting our immoral temptations — whether they are heterosexual, homosexual, theft, or murder — is the responsibility of each individual.
SnakeDoc
Your last paragraph deals with predispositions to activitivies, not the issue of attraction to certain types of sex.
It would be remarkable to find that there was any genetic predisposition to want to put a penis in an anus rather than a vagina.
Two guys loving each other is just two guys having love for one another. I can see any male having the ability to “fall in love”, meaning to develop a loving, nurturing relationship, with any other human being, whether they are male or female.
But “homosexuality” is simply about what parts you use to satisfy sexual urges.
Which is why heterosexual men have “gay sex” in prison — the gay rights activists aren’t stupid enough to suggest that most criminals are gay men, so they have to admit that “gay sex” has nothing to do with inate attractiveness to other humans.
And it is also why a man can be sexually attracted to another man if that other man simply puts on a wig and pretends to be female. If sexual attraction was built into genes and was hormonal, the male heterosexual would inately be able to tell that the person they were with was not of the sex they were attracted to.
But in fact, sexual attraction is largely about desiring sexual gratification, and years of training in what is supposed to be “sexually attractive”.
So if you grow up in a society where women hide their faces, you get aroused by seeing a face. Grow up nudist, and your arousal is built on some other factor. Grow up being told that other men are attractive, you will find other men attractive. If society teaches that heavy women are desirable, people will want to have sex with heavy women, if we say that thin girls are the thing, people go after thin girls.
We allow homosexual activists to steal the argument when they mix raw physical sexual urges with the concept of love and relationships.
Something you should have included, is that the media and government have decided to feminize males. The media can’t seem to find a plot for males that doesn’t include some major women’s traits somewhere along the way. I realize that there are action movies that seem to skirt this view, but if you’ll watch closely, the men in these genres are often out-thought by their female sidekicks. Thus the man becomes a mindless brute, while the woman is a brilliant strategist and so much more the real power behind the success of the mission.
Of course our courts have essentially made men into slobbering mindless goons, as they in all too many cases are removed from the decision making processes regarding their children, have only 15% or so of access to their children, and the paternal side of the family has their influence on the child essentially eliminated.
In today’s culture, the male is expendable. As long as he performs as a donor and provides that income stream, he’s done his job. At times even the donor party isn’t a requirement.
Gay gene or no gay gene doesn’t prove that “gayness” is normal. Down Syndrome people are born that way. Does that make them normal? No denigration of Down Syndrome people intended. It’s just reality.
It’s just ‘queerness’, noone understands it!
My comments were not about morality or judgment. I don’t really disagree with you; no reason to get defensive. :)
It may very well be true that homosexuality has genetic components. That statement is scientifically verifiable. That statement is also completely independent of whether to regard homosexual behavior as a normal expression of one’s natural self, or to regard the underlying predisposition as a chronic disease to be overcome.
I have a genetic predisposition for high blood pressure and obesity. This does not mean I let myself get as much weight as I can and eat the greasiest foods I can find. Quite the contrary, it means I must work that much harder to stay healthy and in shape.
As always, your genetic predisposition does not need to determine your behavior. Being predisposed to obesity does not mean you must be fat. Being predisposed to womanizing does not mean you must cheat on your wife. Likewise, being predisposed to homosexuality does not mean you must [CENSORED].
(Though personally, to be honest I really don’t care.)
ahhhhhhh
The AMA . . .
and that exclusive club of paragon moralists who have been
sooooooooooooooo generous in approving, supporting, defending, and getting rich off of . . .
HORRIFIC INFANTICIDE.
You’re suggesting I’d do better having THEM advise me?
ROTFLOL!
ROTFLOL—TO THE MAX!
Agreed, with one minor point of disagreement...
“If society teaches that heavy women are desirable, people will want to have sex with heavy women”
I don’t see that happening.
:)
Regarding change and the right to treatment, lesbian activist Camille Paglia offered the following observations:
"Homosexuality is not 'normal.' On the contrary it is a challenge to the norm...Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction...No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous...homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait.....
"Is the gay identity so fragile that it cannot bear the thought that some people may not wish to be gay? Sexuality is highly fluid, and reversals are theoretically possible. However, habit is refractory, once the sensory pathways have been blazed and deepened by repetition-a phenomenon obvious in the struggle with obesity, smoking, alcoholism or drug addiction....helping gays to learn to function heterosexually, if they wish, is a perfectly worthy aim.
"We should be honest enough to consider whether homosexuality may not indeed be a pause a the prepubescent stage where children anxiously band together by gender....current gay cant insists that homosexuality is 'not a choice,' that no one would choose to be gay in a homophobic society. But there is an element of choice in all behavior, sexual or otherwise. It takes an effort to deal with the opposite sex; it is safer with your own kind. The issue is one of challenge versus comfort."
Source Paglia, C., Vamps and tramps. New York: Vintage Books. 1994, pp. 70, 72, 76, 77, 78, 91
In other words, aberrations and perverts are made, not born! Well thanks a lot, Mr and Mrs Frank!
The comment was about the APA vis-a-vis medical expertise, specifically genetics.
I’m not saying the AMA are angels - far from it. But they ARE physicians.
And what an unfortunate name for the author...
Cute theory, but the fact is homosexuals can also be pretty violent people -- on average, twice as violent as heterosexuals.
I’m all for turning their arguments against them.
I believe someone once said that despite the ‘gay is gay and it will never change’ militant outlook that they really don’t want a gene found if it in fact exists for a whole host of reasons.
How would you like to be a conjoined twin (sharing a body from the waist down) in this sceniaro? Date night for your brother could be a royal pain in the ass.
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