How Can All "Non-Leftists" Successfully Prevent A "Forever Socialism" Situation Throughout The U.S.?

me | 05/13/09 | johnthebaptistmoore

[johnthebaptistmoore]

Countries under a socialistic form of government have maintained it for several decades with no real end in sight. I'm seriously concerned that, if the presently socialistic countries don't even want to seriously try to move towards a capitalistic form of government, then how is the U.S.'s quick and ongoing move towards socialism really supposed to also be successfully stopped in its tracks? Leftists, all over the world, have successfully dominated the mainstream media and government run public schools for a very long time, and worldwide political correctness and the worldwide "dumbing down" of the general public seriously continues to get even worse for everybody everyday, whether they really realize it or not. Too many of the world's population are more concerned about keeping track of certain reality TV shows than they are of seriously trying to create a profoundly healthy political environment worldwide that also really last as close to forever as is humanly possible. There are already way too many "politically stupid" people in the world and way too many "politically ignorant" people in the world, and it continues to get even worse for everybody everyday all over the world. The world also continues to become even more secularized everyday, and, while too many world religions are continuing their profound decline in, both, support and people, at the same time, the Islamic faith is growing at a substantial rate all over the world. This worldwide Islamic growth also includes violent groups of Islamic extremest, who successfully create even more terrorists all over the world. Conservatives will have to successfully get around all of these ongoing problems at the worldwide level and then also successfully maintain their political dominance for as long as humanly possible, if they are ever going to have any kind of actual, successful political comeback in the future. Actions will always speak louder than words, and neither my pessimism, nor the optimism of others will really result in any kind of success for worldwide conservatism, if no serious and successful actions are ever taken by the majority of non-leftists throughout the world and at any given point in the future. How is even all of the "future damage" on all issues successfully created by leftists through past and present legislation supposed to be successfully ended for always? Even if leftists are ever successfully defeated in future elections, their "future damaging legislation" on all issues is still already in place anyways! How is the world supposed to ever successfully get out of their ongoing "leftist funk"?

[johnthebaptistmoore]

The world is so screwed, with no actual end in sight!

[EQAndyBuzz]

“How Can All “Non-Leftists” Successfully Prevent A “Forever Socialism” Situation Throughout The U.S.?”

It starts with paragraphs.

[KoRn]

Paragraphs are our friends....

I couldn’t even begin to read that.

[ought-six]

Didn’t the author of this post learn about paragraphs in school? Sorry, but my eyes can’t read that jumble at this time of day.

[nathanbedford]

I am an older guy with kids were not too far off from entering the business world. These kids will have an entirely different world to contend with than I did. The opportunities offered to them by technology will be 100 times as varied than those I was exposed to. But their intellectual and entrepreneurial options will be constricted to a point that an old conservative war horse like me simply could not tolerate. The system will crush me.

These kids will have to make the same decisions that are confronting our chief executive officers of our banks, our motor car companies, our major insurance companies, and now are healthcare providers and physicians. They will have to decide whether to go along in order to get along in an increasingly fascist economy. The fascism will not be limited to economic options. The attack machine against ordinary private citizens who forget to keep their heads below the parapet like Joe the Plummer or Miss California reveal that the thought police will be out in full force.

This means that the problem is far deeper than the likelihood that the situation will be irretrievable politically, it will be enslaving economically, culturally, and morally.

[Minn]

Paragraphs are easy. A simple <p> is all it takes. Looks like it might be a good read. Many will never bother to find out.

[combat_boots]

Countries under a socialistic form of government have maintained it for several decades with no real end in sight. I’m seriously concerned that, if the presently socialistic countries don’t even want to seriously try to move towards a capitalistic form of government, then how is the U.S.’s quick and ongoing move towards socialism really supposed to also be successfully stopped in its tracks?

Leftists, all over the world, have successfully dominated the mainstream media and government run public schools for a very long time, and worldwide political correctness and the worldwide “dumbing down” of the general public seriously continues to get even worse for everybody everyday, whether they really realize it or not. Too many of the world’s population are more concerned about keeping track of certain reality TV shows than they are of seriously trying to create a profoundly healthy political environment worldwide that also really last as close to forever as is humanly possible.

There are already way too many “politically stupid” people in the world and way too many “politically ignorant” people in the world, and it continues to get even worse for everybody everyday all over the world.

The world also continues to become even more secularized everyday, and, while too many world religions are continuing their profound decline in, both, support and people, at the same time, the Islamic faith is growing at a substantial rate all over the world. This worldwide Islamic growth also includes violent groups of Islamic extremest, who successfully create even more terrorists all over the world.

Conservatives will have to successfully get around all of these ongoing problems at the worldwide level and then also successfully maintain their political dominance for as long as humanly possible, if they are ever going to have any kind of actual, successful political comeback in the future. Actions will always speak louder than words, and neither my pessimism, nor the optimism of others will really result in any kind of success for worldwide conservatism, if no serious and successful actions are ever taken by the majority of non-leftists throughout the world and at any given point in the future.

How is even all of the “future damage” on all issues successfully created by leftists through past and present legislation supposed to be successfully ended for always? Even if leftists are ever successfully defeated in future elections, their “future damaging legislation” on all issues is still already in place anyways! How is the world supposed to ever successfully get out of their ongoing “leftist funk”?

[GOP Poet]

I am sure this is an interesting read johnthebaptistmoore. Yet without paragraphs I can not bear to read it. Think smaller chunks and break her up and repost in a future post on this thread. I would love to read it.

[GOP Poet]

Ah. Thank you combat_boots :-). I see we were thinking the same thing. You went that extra step you kind person you.

[combat_boots]

S’OK. I wanted to read it but was going letter blind.

[Dianna]

Countries under a socialistic form of government have maintained it for several decades with no real end in sight.

Actually, I am feeling rather optimistic.

Socialism always fails because it is fiscally unsustainable long-term. If you look at France's recent history, you will see that the government has tried to pull back on entitlements. Those efforts have failed because they have had those benefits for generations.

I think it's a good thing that we are rapidly going broke. A healthy American economy could have dragged out socialism for hundreds of years.

Rather, things are bad now, will continue to decline, and will not improve as government takes over more and more. People will see over the course of a few years that the government programs are not making anything better. But they will remember prosperity. They will remember having choices at the grocery store. They will remember all the goodies they bought with their credit while the economy was healthier.

They will be begging for change. Remember how upset people were with $4 per gallon gas? Remember the complaining about $4 per gallon milk? Double the price of most basic goods through inflation and people will be pissed.

The next dozen or so years won't be pleasant, but the change will be so rapid that I think it will work in our favor.

[Boucheau]

“...the change will be so rapid that I think it will work in our favor.”

This is what most on the right are soothing themselves with but it will not turn out this way.

This is the hard-left, not liberals.

They are presently setting us up to have no options.

The “inexplicable” spending is your first clue.

Freedom will not be an option, folks.

They are strapping us down with so much debt that only their solutions will make sense—or suffer a collapse.

The demographics are changing in such a way that there won’t be the “right-wing” voting block that there is today.

While you are all applying this “optimistic” (and foolish) salve to your inner world, your freedom is being stolen right before your glazed-over eyes.

The people won’t be “begging for change”. They will be begging for more “help” from the government.

There will be no undoing what they are currently doing. This is not just another Democrat era, people! Wake up!

I can’t believe how many people, after all we’ve witnessed lately, believe it can’t happen here.

And I am blown away at how many at FR don’t get it.

The time to fight is now.

America is too big to fail, right? To big to bring down, correct?

The moment they achieve national health care, and they will, you will know that America has run her race—the great experiment will be over.

The rest of the rights you have enjoyed will follow shortly thereafter.

There simply aren’t enough people around anymore that understand this threat.

Americans are fat, dumb and happy. Too spoiled, too naive, and too ignorant to see what is happening to them.

From the time I was a teenager I dreaded the loss of the WWII generation. I feared what might happen once they were gone—now I know.

No fight, no freedom, FReepers.

[Dianna]

They are strapping us down with so much debt that only their solutions will make sense—or suffer a collapse.

It will collapse, there is no doubt about it. The only way Europe and China have been able to keep themselves going is because we provide them with goods and military protection. No one can buy our stuff and provide us with money, it won't be long before no one will loan us money, and the first attack after cutting the military will have people clamoring for protection. They won't be able to keep up the shell game for 10 years.

Sure, most Americans are fat, dumb and happy until they get a little bit uncomfortable. All I hear is whining about the economy and all the restaurants and movie theaters in my area are still packed to the rafters every weekend. These people will lose their minds if prices start to rise precipitously.

There are hard-core liberals in charge, but a good amount of their supporters are regular folks who just think it's nice to help those less fortunate than themselves, as long as they have the money to give and still be comfortable. They didn't sign on for a radically different, broke and vulnerable America.

[Boucheau]

OK, but you have described only a fraction of what will happen.

You believe there are people that will rise up against these people.

The paradigm will have shifted by then.

This requires a long answer.

The KGB predicted this perfectly decades ago.

You, and many Americans, see those in charge to be just another group of wacky liberals—they are not.

You don’t have to dig too deep to discover that these people are deeply connected to the hard-left, you know, communists.

Why do you suppose the left has worked so hard to take-over the educational system, inside and out? Do you think it’s an accident that 85% of professors support left-wing policies?

How about the media?

How about local governments?

They have infilitrated most of our fundamental institutions and power centers.

They have censored your speech with “political correctness” and “hate crimes”. These are but a foot-in-the-door to controlling speech. Much less of a problem when you own the press, isn’t it?

They have taxed you to the point of slavery—if you work for a living you will work most of every year just to pay ALL of your taxes, fees, surcharges, etc.

We have a President who STATED CLEARLY: “[the Constitution] is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.”

“...MUST DO ON YOUR BEHALF.”

Does this worry anyone, besides me?

HELLO!

How about a skillful turn of words to effectively DO AWAY WITH OUR CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS!

I know, I’m an alarmist and, geez, c’mon he can’t be THAT bad.

Christ! What do people need to see?

Do words not matter?

Do a man’s associations and past behavior no longer predict future behavior?

Where are the thinkers in this country?

Why do they insist on deluding themselves and not seeing what is right before them?

He’s nationalized major banks, financial institutions and corporations.

He’s fired a CEO.

He’s effectively handed GM to a powerful union.

He’s given billions to ACORN a hard-left activist group and clearly tied to majore voter fraud.

He’s effectively handed THE CENSUS to ACORN.

He’s shackled generations of Americans with debt—part of the plan, by the way.

He’s threatening us with cap and trade legislation that is a nail in America’s coffin.

He’s threatening us with national health care. That, if passed, will be the end of America as you know it.

and on, and on, and on...

All this in THREE MONTHS!

I wish I had your optimism. I am preparing for much, much worse.

He is NOT Jimmy Carter folks. He is NOT a liberal.

He is a communist. Look at his past. Look at his associations. Read his books. This is not hard to see.

If he’s not a communist, then what is he?

Is he a capitalist? HELL NO!

Is he just a wacky liberal? You wish.

Is he a socialist. Yes.

Is socialism just another means to the communists end. Yes.

Communism doesn’t start with piles of corpses. It begins with hope and change.

Don’t take my word for it.

Ask ANYONE who has lived under communism.

They sought the same utopia that 0bama and his ilk are trying to bring into reality.

It cannot exist. It is deadly fantasy.

And it is happening here.

Tune me out if it makes you feel better.

They were tuning me out in the 90’s when I predicted exactly what is happening now.

I know the hard-left like I know capitalism and I can tell you these people hate America and are working to alter it forever.

Look how much has changed in three months.

How much do think will change in four, or, heaven forbid, eight years?

This is not America as usual.

This is a full-fledged attack from within on our way of life.

You can open your eyes and accept this fact or your eyes will be opened in time—when it’s too, too late to do anything about it.

[johnthebaptistmoore]

I find the present optimism by too many people to be a kind of “denial” of what will really be coming worldwide for the long-term. This continued cluelessness of what’s really happening politically by too many is why I predict that it will be, at least, eighty years before conservatism makes any kind of serious and successful political comeback, if conservatism ever does make any kind of political comeback at any given point in the future. By then, the U.S., as we presently know it, will really be long gone and replaced by a third world, socialistic “one big mess of a” country.