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Unique Strain:Is the Swine Flu Outbreak a Bio-Terror Attack?
RightSideNews ^ | April 25, 2009 | Gregs Blog

Posted on 04/25/2009 2:39:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin

In a discussion this morning with a cell biologist and medical doctor working at Johns Hopkins, my friend thought this 4-part flu combination is highly unusual and looks like it could be man-made. Especially because it has an avian strain. My doctor friend (he's Taiwanese) explained that in Asia, it's common for a avian-swine-human flu to happen naturally, but this virus first showed up in Mexico, where pigs and ducks are not usually raised together. Also, recombination of more than 2-different flu viruses is extremely rare. I'm just repeating what he said as an expert in the field. He says the CDC needs to explain if there is a possibility that we are under a bio-weapon attack. From CDC via Wikipedia: Anne Schuchat, director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said that the American cases were found to be made up of genetic elements from four different flu viruses -- North American swine influenza, North American avian influenza, human influenza A virus subtype H1N1, and swine influenza virus typically found in Asia and Europe.

For two cases a complete genome sequence had been obtained. She said that the virus was resistant to amantadine and rimantadine, but susceptible to oseltamivir (Tamiflu) and zanamivir (Relenza).[22][23][24] Preliminary genetic characterization found that the hemagglutinin (HA) gene was similar to that of swine flu viruses present in U.S. pigs since 1999, but the neuraminidase (NA) and matrix protein (M) genes resembled versions present in European swine flu isolates. Viruses with this genetic makeup had not previously been found to be circulating in humans or pigs, but there is no formal national surveillance system to determine what viruses are circulating in pigs in the U.S.[25]

The seasonal influenza strain H1N1 vaccine is thought to be unlikely to provide protection.[26]

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TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bioterrorism; swineflue; tm; wot
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To: Rushmore Rocks

I thought the FR poster this morning was the person who was given the info??


21 posted on 04/25/2009 3:14:10 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: BenLurkin

That’s what I’m thinking, that’s what I’m fearing.

We have been warned for years that bio-warfare was coming.


22 posted on 04/25/2009 3:15:29 PM PDT by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: narses
Actually we predicted it on April 14th (half joking at the time). But who's counting?

"Obama has already played the "Population Reduction" card which was the first move in his presidency - to increase funding of abortions and population control abroad with U.S. tax dollars. Then they went after Rush Limbaugh. And now they are hyping the Right-Wing extremists panic again (since they did this in the 1990s when Clinton was president). Just as a rough guess, it seems likely they will go to the "Epidemic" card next, hyping some panic about Bird Flu, SARS, a new mutated form of AIDS or some as yet unknown virus which they will hype a panic about, claiming everyone needs some new vaccine. Or they could go back to the Rush Limbaugh card."
355 posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:46:09 PM

23 posted on 04/25/2009 3:23:10 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: WestCoastGal
I thought the FR poster this morning was the person who was given the info??

That's the way it was written. I've pinged the original poster. Either he's the blogger or the blogger stole the thread from FR or the original poster simply didn't post a link.

24 posted on 04/25/2009 3:31:10 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr

Thanks I’m going to post all updates I find over on the Threat Matrix thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2181917/posts?page=576


25 posted on 04/25/2009 3:33:53 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: redheadtoo
If BOH dies of the flu we will never hear the end of it from those who will claim it was a plot to kill a black president.

Good thing Hillary's only Secretary of State, or they'd call it the Ft. Marcy flu..../sarc>

Cheers!

26 posted on 04/25/2009 4:09:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BenLurkin

27 posted on 04/25/2009 4:16:37 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Suddenly we’ve gone from fine to “we’re all gonna die” within 3 days. Agreed. This is why I won't discount the possibility of a bio weapon.
28 posted on 04/25/2009 4:25:04 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: WestCoastGal
another thought.....

Flu thrives in cooler temperatures with low humidity. That is why we have outbreaks in winter which disappear after March. Warm, tropical climates do not have flu outbreaks even in winter.

Now this flu has begun in April in Mexico which is a warmer climate closer to the equator.

No, I'm sorry. Something is not right with this picture.

Stock up on vitamins and homeopathic flu remedies. Beware of any vaccines, especially from China or other third world countries.

29 posted on 04/25/2009 4:32:15 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: rdl6989

This flu is not behaving like a normal flu outbreak.


30 posted on 04/25/2009 4:33:25 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Flu thrives in cooler temperatures with low humidity.

Just one more reason why Global Warming is a good thing.

31 posted on 04/25/2009 4:33:29 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ModelBreaker

“He will give you money in exchage for preferred stock in your children and your 401K.”

Or... he’ll trade the antidote to you in exchange for all your money.


32 posted on 04/25/2009 4:41:32 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Some interesting thoughts, thanks.

I use Esberitox, olive leaf and http://www.sambucolusa.com/


33 posted on 04/25/2009 5:01:33 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: WestCoastGal

Actually I have the one produced in Israel

http://www.israel21c.org/bin/en.jsp?enPage=BlankPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Articles^l822&enZone=Health&enVersion=0


34 posted on 04/25/2009 5:10:29 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: WestCoastGal

one other point I just thought of....

This flu is targeting the normally healthy age group. Regular flus take their toll on the young and elderly. The 25-45 age group are usually the most likely to survive, not die.

The normal scenario is completely inverted.


35 posted on 04/25/2009 5:18:44 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I think someone explained that some folks may have a little immunity over a certain age to some strains of flu. That’s why it seems to hit the younger under 40 group harder.


36 posted on 04/25/2009 5:39:25 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Warm, tropical climates do not have flu outbreaks even in winter.

Isn't that because people aren't trapped inside sneezing on each other and breathing recirculating heated air?

37 posted on 04/25/2009 5:44:56 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: WestCoastGal

yes, but this is an entirely new strain so no one has immunity and it wouldn’t explain a lower incidence in those under 25. The young and elderly are more susceptible due to weaker immune systems.

Another point to note is that large scale protests like the Tea Parties will be avoided out of fear or shut down by the government in the name of public safety.


38 posted on 04/25/2009 6:14:55 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: Minn

That is certainly a factor for transmission but the recent thinking is that the flu virus stays alive longer in cooler climates. It literally hangs in the air due to favorable temps and low humidity. The warmth of the tropical climate kills the virus while the humidity prevents suspension in the air.

The virus has to stay alive long enough to transmit.

That is my rudimentary understanding outside of being an epidemiologist.


39 posted on 04/25/2009 6:22:01 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself. - John Adams)
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To: WestCoastGal

Thanks for the tip. I didn’t know about it until I found your post.


40 posted on 04/25/2009 7:39:06 PM PDT by Sundog (Forget the Tea Party. We need a Washington DC rocket club to hold a launch at the national mall.)
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