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Time For Mankiw To Resign
Global Economic Analysis ^ | 04/19/09

Posted on 04/20/2009 8:52:51 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Time For Mankiw To Resign

On Saturday I checked my watch to verify the date. A quick check showed it was April 18. Just to be sure I asked my wife Joanne and she assured me it was the 18th. Likewise my computer said it was the 18th.

For a brief moment, I thought we had flashed back in time and it was April 1.

April Fool's day was the only rational explanation I could come up with for a column in the New York Times by Gregory Mankiw, professor of economics at Harvard.

(Excerpt) Read more at globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: insanity; mankiw; mish; shedlock
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1 posted on 04/20/2009 8:52:52 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/20/2009 8:53:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tickers continued here:

http://market-ticker.org/authors/2-Karl-Denninger


3 posted on 04/20/2009 8:56:56 AM PDT by combat_boots (God, guns and babies--Veterans, Constitution and legal immigration. The true Americans.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is what’s wrong with economists today. Why is it even so important to be spending our money anyway? How does forced or compelled spending raise our standard of living? This proposal is absolute insanity.


4 posted on 04/20/2009 9:00:51 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
You have to read Mankiw's original NYT column where he says----->>>

Imagine that the Fed were to announce that, a year from today, it would pick a digit from zero to 9 out of a hat. All currency with a serial number ending in that digit would no longer be legal tender. Suddenly, the expected return to holding currency would become negative 10 percent.

That move would free the Fed to cut interest rates below zero. People would be delighted to lend money at negative 3 percent, since losing 3 percent is better than losing 10.

I am missing the logic here
The people who lend money are banks and they don't loan out green Federal Reserve Notes
They loan out money from their pool of assets which are in the form of book keeping entries on a computer. Cash money is a minor part of their assets.
A mafia loan shark would be "stimulated" to loan out more money because he does deal in cash and with this plan 10% of his cash stash would be eliminated each year

5 posted on 04/20/2009 9:01:10 AM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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So Mankiw was unwittingly setting himself up for a mob hit?
6 posted on 04/20/2009 9:03:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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excerpt ...

“Imagine that the Fed were to announce that, a year from today, it would pick a digit from zero to 9 out of a hat. All currency with a serial number ending in that digit would no longer be legal tender. Suddenly, the expected return to holding currency would become negative 10 percent.

That move would free the Fed to cut interest rates below zero. People would be delighted to lend money at negative 3 percent, since losing 3 percent is better than losing 10.”

“Of course, some people might decide that at those rates, they would rather spend the money — for example, by buying a new car. But because expanding aggregate demand is precisely the goal of the interest rate cut, such an incentive isn't’ a flaw — it’s a benefit.”
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An insane idea ... however, we have learned that progressive liberals love ideas like this; and do attempt to make laws of stupid ideas.

God have mercy on your people in America.

7 posted on 04/20/2009 9:04:06 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

All jokes aside did I mkae a valid point?

But Mankiew’s proposal puts mafia loan sharks at a disadvantage compared to bankster loan sharks and credit card loan sharks


8 posted on 04/20/2009 9:07:03 AM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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To: dennisw
Yes, Mankiw’s idea is hitting cash banking. Maybe he should complement it with zotting data entries at certain computer memory addresses, taking a cue from Microsoft's DRM :-)
9 posted on 04/20/2009 9:12:31 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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Wasn’t Mankiw one of Bush’s economic advisers?

Small freaking wonder.


10 posted on 04/20/2009 9:28:58 AM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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Bookmarking your home page. Great comment.


11 posted on 04/20/2009 9:33:44 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Yes, Mankiw’s idea is hitting cash banking. Maybe he should complement it with zotting data entries at certain computer memory addresses, taking a cue from Microsoft's DRM :-)

Does Microsoft actually mess with people's computers? Via an update would make it legit

12 posted on 04/20/2009 9:34:44 AM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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Yes, it does. I saw it happening. It is not an urban legend.


13 posted on 04/20/2009 9:36:31 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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But via an update? Or just going into your friends computer and messing with it due to......perceived DRM violations?


14 posted on 04/20/2009 9:43:09 AM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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Yes, via update and other probes. As long as your computer is hooked on Internet.


15 posted on 04/20/2009 9:51:22 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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I think he’s completely missing the EVEN WORSE point of Manwik’s op-ed. (Manwik does not take the proposal to demonetarize cash seriously. He mentions it as a way of illustrating the “benefits” of accelerated spending.)

What Manwik is actually proposing in his article is MUCH WORSE. (Pardon my shouting.) He is proposing that the Federal Reserve deliberately increase inflation! This would have the “desired” effect of punishing saving and rewarding consumption. (Actually, it will probably just have the effect of driving up the price of gold and other inflation hedging commodities.)

Inflation is war by debtors on creditors. LBJ waged a successful campaign, 1966-68, carried on in full by Nixon and Ford. It was left to Jiminy Carter to reap the whirlwind, which he did with characteristic ineptitude. It took Reagan to have the guts and insight to ride out the resulting recession without any hair-brained schemes, and bring inflation under control and right the economy for the next 25 years.

As bad as Bush II was, only a Democratic would view inflation as a cure for indebtedness.


16 posted on 04/20/2009 10:08:04 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The age of 0bama: the transient ischemic delusions of adequacy decade.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Economists got addicted to a fix called inflation. It is their favorite pain killer of sorts.


17 posted on 04/20/2009 10:15:06 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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The idea as expressed is complete nonsense however, there is something similar that could be done to good effect. The US one hundred dollar bill is probably the most circulated piece of currency in the world. International drug dealers and arms smugglers use it almost exclusively. it is used world wide and North Korea and Iran have both run state sponsored counterfeiting operations to pump up their supplies of foreign exchange.

Rather then put one random digit out of circulation we should announce that within thirty days the "old design" would no longer be legal tender and you should cash them in now for the "new design".

That would make the off shore counterfeiting operations obsolete overnight. It would also cause the obscenely wealthy drug lords to loose a major stash of cash. Thoughts?

Regards,
GtG

18 posted on 04/20/2009 10:36:28 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Economists got Irresponsible politicians are addicted to a fix called inflation. It is their favorite pain killer of sorts.

Milton Friedman ( Nobel Laureate for Economics and by that definition an economist) thought inflation was bad for an economy long term. He was aware of its palliative qualities, but analogized it to a drunk and liquor. At least one economist (whom Reagan listened to) viewed inflation as poor policy. It would be most amusing to see what Friedman would have to say about the current administration.

19 posted on 04/20/2009 10:49:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The age of 0bama: the transient ischemic delusions of adequacy decade.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

The inrush of C-notes would swamp the US Treasury. C-notes under a mattress are essentially an interest free loan from the holder to the larger U.S. economy. Those holding U.S. paper currency are doing us a favor. They send us flat screen TVs and fine automobiles and we send them portraits of dead presidents.


20 posted on 04/20/2009 10:52:22 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The age of 0bama: the transient ischemic delusions of adequacy decade.)
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