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The Search for the Solar System's Lost Planet
yahoo/space.com ^ | 4/13/09 | Clara Moskowitz

Posted on 04/13/2009 12:21:37 PM PDT by Vaquero

Clara Moskowitz

The solar system might once have had another planet named Theia, which may have helped create our own planet's moon.

Now two spacecrafts are heading out to search for leftovers from this rumored sibling, which would have been destroyed when the solar system was still young.

"It's a hypothetical world. We've never actually seen it, but some researchers believe it existed 4.5 billion years ago — and that it collided with Earth to form the moon," said Mike Kaiser, a NASA scientist at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: badastronomy; catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; lunarcapture; lunarorigin; mikekaiser; moon; nasa; stereo; telescope; theia; themoon; xplanets
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To: Vaquero

INCOMING!


21 posted on 04/13/2009 12:43:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog (Choose your allies carefully.)
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To: dr_who

Oh NO! Robots carrying accordions!


22 posted on 04/13/2009 12:44:56 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: cripplecreek

exactly


23 posted on 04/13/2009 12:46:14 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: brytlea

Actually, there’s some truth to that. Only they don’t wield axes.


24 posted on 04/13/2009 12:48:39 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: massgopguy
Oh NO! Robots carrying accordions!

Yes, the dread Cajun/Zydeco Federation Killer Squeezebox Robots.

25 posted on 04/13/2009 12:50:44 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: smokingfrog

Nibiru!


26 posted on 04/13/2009 12:53:52 PM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
rubbish. that wouldn’t account for the rotation.
Why not? Tidal lock is inevitable. This is true of most larger moons in the solar system, regardless of formation.
27 posted on 04/13/2009 12:54:00 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: LibLieSlayer

If it will get the idiots who claim the earth has a “nemesis” on the other side of the sun to shut up, it’ll be well worth the slight cost of expanding the mission.


28 posted on 04/13/2009 12:55:49 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: fanfan

We would but — they turned off their headlights.


29 posted on 04/13/2009 1:00:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("It's not treason to want freedom.")
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To: Vaquero
Source: www.dailygalaxy.com
July 05, 2007

The Theia Hypothesis: New Evidence Emerges that Earth and Moon Were Once the Same According to the giant impact hypothesis, there was once a Mars-sized body referred to as Theia orbiting in our solar system. The planet was named after the Greek Titan who gave birth to the Moon goddess Selene—a fitting name considering that the planet Theia is thought to be responsible for the birth of our moon.

Theia would have formed in about the same orbit as Earth, but about 60° ahead or behind. When the protoplanet had grown to be about the size of Mars, its size made it too heavy for its orbit to remain stable. As a result, its angular distance from Earth varied increasingly, until it finally it crashed into the Earth.

The collision would have occurred circa 4.533 billion years ago when Theia would have hit the Earth at an oblique angle, and destroyed herself in the process. Theia's mantle and a significant portion of the Earth's silicate mantle were thrust into space. The left over materials from Theia mixed with the materials from the Earth and eventually formed the Moon.

New research is validating this hypothesis, showing that the Earth’s core and the Moon’s core contain the same silicon isotopic material, which would support that the two were once a single body until a large impact separated them.

Scientists from Oxford University, University of California, and Swiss Federal Institute of Technology compared silicon isotopes from Earth rocks, as well as other materials from our solar system such as rocky materials from meteorites.

Up to about 2,900 kilometers (1,800 miles) into the Earth (not quite half way to the center), is what we know as the mantle and crust. They are predominantly formed of silicate, a compound mad of silicon, oxygen, and other elements. Past the halfway mark is a dense metallic iron material that makes up the Earth’s core.

The multinational team found that the heavier isotopes from silicate samples taken from the Earth consisted of increased amounts of the heavier isotopes of silicon. They found that Mars, the asteroid Vesta, and various chrondites (primitive meteorites that never produced ainner cores) do not contain such an arrangement, even though they have an iron core. is much smaller than the Earth (about one-eighth the size), so did not have enough mass to generate the pressure necessary to form the same core as found in the Earth.

On the other hand, the researchers found that the Moon did show a similar composition of the silicon isotopic composition as the Earth. However, it, too, is much smaller than the Earth—about one-fiftieth as large as the Earth and about one percent of the Earth’s mass—making it even less likely to have been able to generate enough pressure to form an Earth-like iron core.

However, such a core does exist at the center of the Moon, but no one can explain how it got there.

The researchers contend that the Moon indeed must have been created during a giant impact by a planet-size object (Theia) that hit during the early development of Earth. The impact was large enough that the materials, which eventually formed the Moon, mixed with the materials from the Earth, which already had a heavy silicon isotopic composition.

They state within their paper in the journal Nature: “The similar isotopic composition of the bulk silicate Earth and the Moon is consistent with the recent proposal that there was large-scale isotopic equilibration during the giant impact.”

This research is the first of its kind using isotopes in this manner and offers intriguing insights into the creation of Mars, the Earth, and the Moon. It may also help explain how life evolved on the Earth and whether or not it might have existed at some time on Mars.

30 posted on 04/13/2009 1:02:28 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obamanation: an imploding administration headed by a clueless schmuck, with McCain as his Kowakian)
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To: COBOL2Java

Interesting. What an apt name. Thanks for posting that.


31 posted on 04/13/2009 1:06:01 PM PDT by Toki (The cows go moo, the ducks go quack, and Toki slowly goes mad.)
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To: Vaquero

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064519/usercomments


32 posted on 04/13/2009 1:07:35 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

!kcilf taerG


33 posted on 04/13/2009 1:15:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("It's not treason to want freedom.")
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To: dr_who

Father Guido Sarducci researched in the Vatican archives and discovered the “Coming and Going” planet where some people are getting older and others younger, and couples who meet romantically while aging in opposite directions are very soon “in big-a trouble”.


34 posted on 04/13/2009 1:16:40 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: BenLurkin
We would but — they turned off their headlights.

Only because they are closer to the sun.

Have you ever driven by moonlight? I did, in Northern Ontario, once.

My Dad was driving. Very cool.

35 posted on 04/13/2009 1:27:09 PM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: COBOL2Java

and the Moon’s core

How in the world did they get samples of the moon’s core?


36 posted on 04/13/2009 1:42:39 PM PDT by DManA
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To: fanfan
I wouldn't sweat it too much though. ;') 2012 is when the Great Cycle of the Mayan calendar ends/new one begins, and some have claimed it means the end of the world. :'D Here's my oft-revisited humor about that:

;') [singing] two thousand uno du'os party over says the lights of heaven /
tonight i'm gonna party like it's two thousand eleven
December 20, 2012

37 posted on 04/13/2009 1:49:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Vaquero

additional:

STEREO Hunts for Remains of an Ancient Planet near Earth
NASA | Apr. 9, 2009 | Dr. Tony Phillips
Posted on 04/10/2009 4:04:43 PM PDT by decimon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2226668/posts


38 posted on 04/13/2009 1:51:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
The big problem will come when nothing happens in Dec. of 2012.

What earth shattering fear will we have to look forward to then?

39 posted on 04/13/2009 1:54:57 PM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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40 posted on 04/13/2009 1:55:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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