Posted on 04/13/2009 11:39:11 AM PDT by TaraP
A former engineer at the top secret airfield "Area 51" in Nevada has spoken out about UFO sightings in the region in the 1960s, saying the witnessed flashes of light were part of top secret US aircraft experiments.
In an interview with ABC News, Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, a former special-projects engineer at Area 51 said: "No one really knew we existed. Even our wives didn't know where we were going when we left Monday morning and came back Friday evening."
Barnes was an electronics engineer for NASA who also specialised in advance radar and Soviet MiG fighter aircraft and was asked to join a team of CIA experts who would work on secret military projects at the infamous base.
UFO folklore has it that Area 51, about 80 miles north northwest of Las Vegas, is where captured aliens and their spacecraft have been stored by the US military. The conspiracy theory comes in part because of the preponderance of strange, unaccounted for lights that have been seen in the region of the top secret military base.
However Barnes poured cold water on the theory saying the "alien spaceships" were in fact light flashes from top secret spy planes being flown at 2,000 miles per hour at altitudes of 90,000 feet.
The experimental planes produced light flashes that some interpreted as alien spaceships and this was considered helpful by the team in covering their activities.
"We considered it to be a bonus," said Barnes. "They made it easier to conceal what we were doing."
However some ufologists have said the area has only been partly declassified and UFO work at the base may well have carried out though in a region unknown to engineers such as Barnes.
"Those guys who came forward may very well be telling the truth, with the caveat that they wouldn't know if there was something going on," said Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear physicist, lecturer and top UFO researcher.
Friedman added that evidence coming out of places such as Area 51 proved how much was going on in the country without peoples' knowledge.
"National security has a real place in all of this stuff. There is no way to tell your friends without telling your enemies," he said. "A lot of Americans woke up to the fact that there's a lot going on that they don't get told about."
They’ve helped the
satanic led global oligarchy invent and control exotic war making and tyranny maintaining, manipulating technologies.
They are brothers in crime . . . satan is their head and satan is the head of the oligarchy.
All in-house.
This is called "compartmentalization". I know a man who designed a complex device, and never knew what it was for until he saw it on the bottom of an F-16 at an air show.
And as I said yesterday: other cultures HAVE built pyramids. We’ve got an upside down pyramid in Tucson, the Luxor in Las Vegas. Plus many more http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&um=1&sa=1&q=omdern+pyramids&btnG=Search+Images&aq=f&oq=
Corsi said but he didn’t PROVE. You can say anything, but where’s the proof. Meanwhile you can read the actual patent on the transistor ( http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4950427.html ) and see how it was developed and where it came from.
I don’t think there’s even much of a beginning of sufficient portions of information
in order to make any sensible quality statement of any great substance
about the “need” for demons or fallen angels or UNfallen angels to have technology.
There is some evidence that the breast plate of jewels on the High Priest’s robe somehow responded in a technological way. It could have been entirely 100% spiritual. It might not have been 100% spiritual.
Ezekiel’s chariot is described as a kind of technology. The beings in it are a different matter.
Some have even conjectured that Christ disappearing into a cloud in the air had markings of a UFO based exit. I wouldn’t think He’d need such.
Usually a blue cone-shaped flame laced with orange.
I’m just pointing out that you’re really not making any sense.
—to you.
What’s that have to do with anything? That flashing has nothing has nothing to do with the speed of light and everything to do with how the human eye works.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH . . . and there I was about ready to give you a pass on the insulting assaultiveness and derisive cries of insanity etc. so common for the naysayers. NOPE. Yo in the same stinky bucket, Fred.
BTW, I'm utterly certain I'm a much better trained professional psychologist than you are. And TaraP has great reality testing and sanity.
Yes and no.
The fallen angels in Genesis
1. impregnate human women to God’s great displeasure.
2. give war making technologies t man to God’s great displeasure.
“ET’s” are yet again doing the same things.
It’s plausible that fallen angels need UFO’s because God limited their . . . spiritual resources.
Don’t know that He did. But it’s plausible.
Again, we have no
NEED, desire, goal
to PROVE such things.
Those of us who have studied the topic most extensively are well beyond the proof issues.
Go play in the
HTTP:/WWW.ABOVETOPSECRET.COM
sandbox if that’s your burning compulsion to have p*ssing contests about proof issues.
It’s not our need or focus hereon.
Light is weird. But I usually stop delving into the weirdness of light with the wave/ particle thing. While that’s not strictly a light thing it’s easiest to play with in light, and it’s almost guaranteed to give you a headache if you start playing with it.
Quix,
Razorboy needs to read his Bible...He is trying to fit his wisdom into the Wisdom of GOD...
That makes him look well.... foolish for one...!
Thanks.
I BELIEVE Guy Malone and his top flight panel of experts are correct.
I believe demons are the fallen angels who lost their bodies in Noah’s flood.
IT MAY be the case that SOME greys are bio-engineered bodies for some demons to inhabit.
I do not believe that All ET’s are demons. I believe that MOST OF THEM are fallen angels.
I think it’s mostly a moot point. Both are controlled by satan doing his bidding toward the antiChrist world government Scirpture warns about.
Does non constant light speed make you uncomfortable? Try to look beyond preconceived notions.
NOPE.
You are thoroughly wrong again.
But I consider it an honor.
I doubt anything’s going to change your perspective on that fierce bias.
Very Plausible!
In all the research they have done with people and especially children who have had *Visions* of Angels
NOT ONE said they saw them coming in some kind of spacecraft.
Angels have NO LIMITATIONS...GOD is always in control
Clearly your research is nonexistent on him or greatly flawed.
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