Posted on 04/13/2009 11:39:11 AM PDT by TaraP
A former engineer at the top secret airfield "Area 51" in Nevada has spoken out about UFO sightings in the region in the 1960s, saying the witnessed flashes of light were part of top secret US aircraft experiments.
In an interview with ABC News, Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, a former special-projects engineer at Area 51 said: "No one really knew we existed. Even our wives didn't know where we were going when we left Monday morning and came back Friday evening."
Barnes was an electronics engineer for NASA who also specialised in advance radar and Soviet MiG fighter aircraft and was asked to join a team of CIA experts who would work on secret military projects at the infamous base.
UFO folklore has it that Area 51, about 80 miles north northwest of Las Vegas, is where captured aliens and their spacecraft have been stored by the US military. The conspiracy theory comes in part because of the preponderance of strange, unaccounted for lights that have been seen in the region of the top secret military base.
However Barnes poured cold water on the theory saying the "alien spaceships" were in fact light flashes from top secret spy planes being flown at 2,000 miles per hour at altitudes of 90,000 feet.
The experimental planes produced light flashes that some interpreted as alien spaceships and this was considered helpful by the team in covering their activities.
"We considered it to be a bonus," said Barnes. "They made it easier to conceal what we were doing."
However some ufologists have said the area has only been partly declassified and UFO work at the base may well have carried out though in a region unknown to engineers such as Barnes.
"Those guys who came forward may very well be telling the truth, with the caveat that they wouldn't know if there was something going on," said Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear physicist, lecturer and top UFO researcher.
Friedman added that evidence coming out of places such as Area 51 proved how much was going on in the country without peoples' knowledge.
"National security has a real place in all of this stuff. There is no way to tell your friends without telling your enemies," he said. "A lot of Americans woke up to the fact that there's a lot going on that they don't get told about."
Well stated. Very to the point and an excellent fact-based logical statement.
Very informative.
to demons with no logical linkage at all
MORE IGNORANCE GONE TO SEED.
Check out
and/or
HTTP://WWW.ALILENRESISTANCE.ORG
And Posts 211 and 217.
Can I expect a reasoned response to those reasonable question and scenarios?
I mean, “BALDERDASH” only goes so far in making a convincing argument.
QUITE EQUAL ON THOSE SCORES . . .
TO
the stimulus.
???
That makes no sense, seriously.
I guess I will have to wait for TaraP for an informed and reasonable response.
I’ve pontificated at great length with tons of evidence by tons of experts on many threads hereon.
I do so again in any degree only when and where I feel like bothering.
Then that’s even more convincing
that any evidence I provided would also
. . . make no sense . . . to the poster concerned!
What a surprise!
We all have our limitations. I have no need to provide tons of evidence that would automatically be
beyond comprehension and analysis by the synapses concerned!
LOL
Sorry, thought a short response to easy question would be, well, easy, for someone of your insightful intelligence.
I ask again, how do we tell the difference between manmade and inspired technology and Demon technology? Isn’t technology generally neither evil or good, just what the user makes of it. . .like firearms, they aren’t good or evil, they just “are.”
Also, are we the only sentient beings in the universe, or not?
How do you prove it. . either way. Doe the Bible really say we are the only sentient beings in the universe? If we are not the only sentient beings, then how do we KNOW the aliens are just that, aliens, or are we to assume all alien life are demons, or how do we tell the difference.
Pretty easy to answer those quick questions, I imagine, unless you are a little too sensitive to offer info. Perhaps in your mountain of posts you addressed these questions, but really, this is not a term research paper and I don’t have months to wade through your collective tome of inspired knowledge.
I eagerly await your answer.
Please come back, TaraP, we really need your reasoned voice.
Destination: Mustang Ranch, Reno Nevada. The truth is out there..........
Give me one piece of evidence for the existence of extraterrestrials that would be admissible in court.
Sorry here I am...Might have to log off for a bit..But I will be back in a few!
First I would say GOD blessed the earth with some of the natural elements he also speaks of in heaven.....
Take Stones..
Most of us know our birthstone and it’s color meaning, but did you know these colors with meaning may have come from the bible?
It was approximately 1300 B.C. when gemstones and color meaning began to have religious significance. Aaron, the brother of Moses was appointed the high priest by God. In the book of Exodus God gave specific instructions as to how to fashion the Breastplate of Aaron and exactly where to place the precious stones.
Exodus 28:16-21 - “It is to be square - a span long and a span wide - and folded double. Then mount four rows of precious stones on it.
•In the first row there shall be a ruby, a topaz and a beryl:
•In the second row a turquoise, a sapphire and an emerald:
•In the third row a jacinth, and agate and a amethyst:
•In the fourth row a chrysolite, and onyx and a jasper.
Mount them in gold filigree settings. There are to be twelve stones, one for each of the names of the sons of Israel, each engraved like a seal with the name of one of the tribes”. (NIV)
Now check out this video- Is Heaven Real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy5HxemegmA
Satan has incorporated into his system of world rulership as many material distractions.
Affluence, the increase and spread of wealth, communication and technology are factors which, from one point of view, are very beneficial to the devil’s control of mankind.
For one thing, fear is a major element in Satan’s manipulation of humanity, and to the extent that men enjoy and rely on such things for their happiness and security to that degree the fear of losing them produces a sort of bondage which the devil is quick to exploit Heb.2:14-15...
IMO with the Age of Technology after 1947 the nation lost it’s focus on how we as a people would learn to love and respect and honor one another...The 50’s came and with that a slow leak of the Traditional Family was fourth coming, the radical 60’s of free love, racism the Women’s movement, drug culture...So with the Technology Age we lost the Age of Innocence
Geez, when did religious people become Luddites?
I'll keep modern medicine and indoor plumbing, thank you.
Remember this if you can...Most people lived just fine without a cell phone, in fact they lived just fine with one dial phone that a entire family had..No answer machine the phone rang if someone was home they picked it up without fear of a solicitor, it was a family member or friend..
Most people lived fine with 13 channels on the TV, sharing a bedroom with brothers and sisters, playing outside rather than playing with things...
Technology produced a culture that you no longer need other people, you need things, X-Boxes, Cell Phones, Computers,
Blackberry’s this is not of GOD this is Satan and his control over mankind.
So Alien Technology IMO is Satan’s way to take hold of the human race, I would say thus far he has been pretty successful at it.
I am saying..GOD’s concern is not that we have, the latest gadgets and technology so we can twitter or facebook....
GOD’s wealth comes from living a certain way and that does not mean as a poor pauper, but if you are concerned with your wealth and your status most of the time people have no time for GOD...
Just because technology gives us new ways to waste our time does not mean that it is evil.
On the home page of the above link, look for the Roswell story to the right about alien technology and the connection with the transistor (the embedded links do not all work.)
I understand and appreciate your point regarding the devolution of civility and civilization, I lament it every day, but at what point in the timeline of history do we plant a stake and say, “Here, here is where things started going south.”
It could be argued that before and around the turn of the 20th century we “discovered” cars and airplanes and electricity. . .etc, and at that point the nation began to lose its focus. The “roaring 20’s could also be accused to doing the same. What we see in all of man's history is a worship of creations (such as “earth”), as opposed to the Creator. So from my perspective, it really isn't technology that is to blame but the weak and lazy spirit. Am I wrong.
I also am really curious about the whole “alien” thing, as in; are we alone? Are we the only sentient life in the universe or not? And if not, how do we tell the difference between an intergalactic traveler and a demon.
I am not trying to be difficult, just curious
(Appreciate the tolerance and patience, as I have sincere questions. I have to log off now, quality time with the family, you understand).
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