[freedumb2003]

Veddddy Interestink!

(we were more fortunate to win the War than we realiize sometimes...)

[Steely Tom]

I once read a book by, IIRC, Willi Ley, who was Werner Von Braun's right-hand man. In it he told of how, during the last year of the war, as it became clear to the population that Germany's position was deteriorating, there were repeated rumors of "wonder weapons" which would soon turn the tide. The word "wunderwaffen" was so oft-repeated that it even spawned it's own portmanteau: "wuwa," which Ley said sounded as silly in German as it does in English. When these failed to materialize, another phrase entered the lexicon: "wo bleibt die wuwa?" which meant roughly "where are they keeping the wuwa?"

[Frantzie]

An Austrian usurper should never have been allowed to run for office. I have nothing against Austria but letting a non nativeborn run your country is a bad idea.

[donmeaker]

Don’t forget the other innovations:
Murder camps like Auschwitz
Great advancements in gas ovens.
Industrial developments in Zyclon B
Setting churchs on fire to incinerate the worshippers.

[seemoAR]

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[SampleMan]

Most all of the NAZI super weapons were fanciful flops that ignored basic physics and costs. e.g. the V-2 cost 2-3 times as much as a U.S. heavy bomber to produce, yet could only deliver a fraction of the payload and with far less accuracy.

Their super heavy tanks were a complete waste of resources and should have been canceled when the basic calculations showed up front that they would barely be able to move and common sense dictated that they couldn't be transported.

The 80cm Gustav super cannon was really a major waste of resources. It took the resources of a battleship to operate and was only slightly more mobile than a brick building.

Then there is the issue that many of their amazing designs really weren't anything more than fanciful sketches.

Weapons like the Sturmgewehr 44 really were excellent, but a lack of focus resulted in a small percentage of troops actually getting them. Meanwhile the Americans locked onto the M-1 Garand and equipped most every front line soldier with one.

[fso301]

Last time I checked, the Germans lost.

[Doc91678]

That's okay for the past. But now we have Barack Hussein Obama the messiah and wunderkin.
He can lower the oceans and make money to feed the multitudes from the air with cap and trade.

[tanknetter]

I believe that there’s a group out there that’s building a new Ho-IX. Can’t remember where I read it, but iirc the group is made up from volunteers from one of the major US aerospace firms (Boeing, Lockheed or Northrup/Grumman).

[tcrlaf]

Hitler’s interference with BOTH the Messerschmidt and Arado programs, demanding that they be converted in to fighter-bombers for attacks against airfields in England slowed BOTH Programs.

Had Hitler not intervened, and allowed SPeer to prioritize the ME fighter version, the Germans would have had large numbers of them available in late-43, early 44, probably pushing Allied heavy bomber losses to an unacceptable level.

While Arado did have a purpose-built jet bomber, the a-234. The Arado 234’s were VERY effective as light Bombers in combat, they were fast, and thier manuverability could put most Allied fighters to shame. They were especially succsessful in the East, though you’ll find little about it in most research, as the Russians didn’t like admitting losses.

Thier were two operational units, KG76 in Southern Norway, and another in Hungry.

I notice you forgot to include the Heinkel He-162, a CHEAP, light jet fighter that wreaked havoc on the bombers, ESPECIALLY Soviet ones, late in the War. It even had an Ejection Seat, which gave pilots a higher survivability rate than many other aircraft.

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[SkyPilot]

The German engineers were amazing. Almost too hard to I build a scale of the German Horton bomber a few years ago, and I was just amazed at the design.

[SkyPilot]

This is my favorite, the Heinkel He 219.

The Smithsonian has been restoring one. Here is the completed fuselage.

It was an incredible nightfighter. It had a pressurized cabin, ejection seats, and slanted guns (in German they called it "Jazz Music") to hit the bombers from below at an angle and they never saw it coming.

Scale model of the cockpit:

[luv2ndamend]

Thanks for all the info! My daughter is doing a report on why the US should of entered the war before we did. This list is great!