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$10 Million, Just for Motor Oil To Boost Power, Nascar Teams Spend Millions on Engine Lubricants
WSJ ^ | April 9, 2009 | REED ALBERGOTTI

Posted on 04/10/2009 10:48:51 AM PDT by zaphod3000

The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber. It's the motor oil.

Joe Gibbs Racing, a team that owns three top-level Sprint Cup cars, has spent about $1 million a year over the past decade to perfect its motor oil. As a result, its engines have squeezed out an extra 10 horsepower, a roughly 2% increase that can be a serious advantage in Nascar races, where the typical margin of victory is about one second.

With Nascar increasingly cracking down on the use of technology in the sport to cut costs, motor oil is one of the last places teams can innovate without restraint. Companies like Shell, Quaker State and Mobil also make special oils packed with synthetic lubricants, new polymers and experimental molecules for the teams they sponsor.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Sports
KEYWORDS: joegibbs; nascar; oil; sprintcup
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At least one segment of the car industry is working--and innovating.
1 posted on 04/10/2009 10:48:51 AM PDT by zaphod3000
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"At least one segment of the car industry is working--and innovating."

They probably don't have to deal with the UAW.

2 posted on 04/10/2009 10:51:02 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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“...Spend Millions on Lubricants”

What did bwaney fwank do?


3 posted on 04/10/2009 10:51:58 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: areukiddingme1

No problem, since its private money, not a federal bailout.


4 posted on 04/10/2009 10:52:43 AM PDT by zaphod3000
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Is there an advantage to using synthetic oils in street cars?? Adverse effects on engine longevity or efficiency?? Just asking, because I have never considered using synthetic based on the higher price and have not seen empirical evidence that they were better? Please comment.


5 posted on 04/10/2009 11:10:36 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: zaphod3000

The government may try to cut down on wasteful spending by making NASCAR illegal. Just because he can.


6 posted on 04/10/2009 11:11:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I would use synthetics in a car that put particular stress, especially heat, on the engine oil. The example that comes to mind would be turbocharged or supercharged cars. Other than that, I’d just change regular dino-oil every 3k-5k miles.


7 posted on 04/10/2009 11:13:46 AM PDT by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: Paradox

I drive an 07 maxima and use the regular—the car does not get the mpg claimed by the manufacturer—gets 23.5 on hiway and I think was supposed to get 26 mpg. I use whatever 5W30 is on sale and have always changed it myself. Funny thing is the car has 30K miles on it now and about every 5K more miles on the engine, the mpg goes up about another 0.1 mpg.


8 posted on 04/10/2009 11:17:28 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Neoliberalnot

When oil prices rose the differential between synthetics and conventional oil closed. Every mechanic I know tells me I can elongate my oil change intervals. I drive an ‘04 frontier (v6) and I change the oil every 4k miles with Mobil 1.In ten years I may have an informed position on the synthetics.....or not.


9 posted on 04/10/2009 11:19:06 AM PDT by rsobin
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What is Nascar going to run after the Obamabiles are the only official cars allowed on the Obamaways? And since Obama wants to destroy “big oil” and go green, perhaps the oil guys will begin researching on making lubricants with embryonic stem cells or rendered byproducts of the abortion industry?
10 posted on 04/10/2009 11:19:23 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I’ve used only Mobil 1 synthetic oil in the last two vehicles I’ve owned and neither has used a drop of oil between changes. One was a Volvo with turbo which had 104K miles when I disposed of it and the replacement is a GMC pickup with 30K miles.

Engines have been getting better with time, so I can’t attribute it to just the Mobil 1, but I intend to continue using it.

Jack


11 posted on 04/10/2009 11:22:23 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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I’ve known Joe Gibbs since we were kids and didn't have two nickles to rub together. Everything he touches turns to gold, so he'll figure something out.
12 posted on 04/10/2009 11:26:41 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." Dr. Adrian Rogers 1931-2005)
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To: zaphod3000

Private sector R&D. It’s a beautiful thing.


13 posted on 04/10/2009 11:29:55 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If you haven't read "The Creature from Jekyll Island," you probably don't know what's going on.)
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To: JackOfVA; rsobin

Thank you gentlemen for the comments. I will try the mobil 1 next oil change to see if the mpg changes. I don’t drive the car hard because I am too old for that foolishness. I am however, drooling buckets over that 422 HP Camaro that is about to hit the showrooms. My wife would attempt to beat me if I bought one, but she is old too and less handy with a club.


14 posted on 04/10/2009 11:36:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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What is Nascar going to run after the Obamabiles are the only official cars allowed on the Obamaways?

My guess is they'll be racing those new electric things from GM/Segway...

15 posted on 04/10/2009 11:37:59 AM PDT by Texican72
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To: Neoliberalnot
I am not a car nut (I do have friends who are), but I found the following that might help: Car Craft: Synthetic Versus Conventional Oil; The Engine Oil Bible--Looks to be the best of these links; Synthetic Oil Review - Searching for Good Synthetic Oil?; and Synthetic Oil Tutorial. Hope this helps.
16 posted on 04/10/2009 11:41:34 AM PDT by zaphod3000
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To: Coldwater Creek

I really got a hoot out of seeing Gibbs in drag
racing for a few years running top fuel cars

Too much money to refuse NASCAR I guess

Seemed like a nice guy too


17 posted on 04/10/2009 12:25:00 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Coldwater Creek

I’ve never met him but my company sponsors them with machine tools. All the upper echelon fight to go there, I guess his operation is first class with marble floors and a private golf course. Since I don’t play golf that doesn’t excite me, but I’d love to see the “inner sanctum”.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 1:12:09 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Read here: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/motorsports/obama_orders_chevrolet_and_dodge_out_of_nascar_car_news


19 posted on 04/10/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: zaphod3000

That article was pretty slick! :)


20 posted on 04/10/2009 3:02:41 PM PDT by Horkster
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