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OK, gun gurus...Glock or Springfield XD-M? (vanity)
Free Republic | April 8, 2009 | Choose Ye This Day

Posted on 04/08/2009 3:01:19 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day

I'm finally buying a handgun this week, after a long time wanting one, my wife finally relented.

I know I want a 9mm. (No, I don't want anything bigger than that.) It's mostly for target shooting, and to have around the house, not for concealed carry.

The two I'm interested in are the Glock and the Springfield Armory XD-M. I'm torn between the two.

Those that know handguns far better than I do...which would you choose, and why?


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To: Choose Ye This Day

You’re about to spend 400-600 bucks. Do yourself a favor and go to the closest indoor range. Shoot the 9’s, 10’s, 40’s, and 45’s in Springfield, Glock, Sigssaur.

I did and went for the XD-45. Smoother kick. 13 rounds. Triple safetys. Comes in a sweet package with a lock, 2clips and a belt holster. $500.


61 posted on 04/08/2009 3:43:01 PM PDT by clippedwing
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I have the XDM in 9.

Awesome accuracy, lots of features, cocking indicator, loaded chamber indicator, passive firing pin safety, grip safety that blocks the trigger.

Don't have to be a contortionist to take it apart. 19+1 capacity.

I've had Glocks too. Sold every one of them. I'm sold on the XD.

62 posted on 04/08/2009 3:43:05 PM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Everyone has their favorites. I prefer external hammers and simple machinery, for me and anyone else in the same room. Just a preference.

I also prefer not being around people who violate the basic safety rules, or who drink-while-armed, or who keep their safety off. Somewhat more than a preference.

63 posted on 04/08/2009 3:43:06 PM PDT by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

The average garage mechanic, with minimal training, can do virtually all of the possible gunsmithing available to do on a Glock. No, you can’t do grip reductions, but there are only 37 parts, and it’s easy to buy from an amazing array of aftermarket parts (e.g., lone wolf distributors). XD is good, but is nowhere near on aftermarket support. I’ve never messed around on the internals of an XD.

I’ve also had a glock blow up in my hand from an overcharged factory round. No damage to my hand (it stung for 5 minutes, I picked up the pieces and got out my other glock and shot the rest of the stage), and everything vented downward through the magwell like it’s supposed to. All the internal steel parts were screwed, but the frame and slide body were fine. Glock completely repaired the gun for $250, no questions asked. (I used to have a bad practice of dumping all my ammo for a match into a green metal ammo can and throwing away the boxes, so I couldn’t go to the ammo mfg for the charges).

Glocks are accurate enough for any self defense or competition use except bullseye. If you’re doing bullseye, an xd isn’t going to help you.

Another poster mentioned the “trigger safety” — the little piece of plastic that wobbles inside the trigger. It’s not really a safety to protect against AD — if your boogerhook is inside the triggerguard and on the bangswitch, you’ll have an AD. The “trigger safety” prevents the trigger from moving rearward if the gun is dropped or smacked. Since you can adjust a glock trigger with aftermarket parts from about 3lbs all the way up to about 11lbs, a light trigger needs that protection.

I’ve owned all the expensive guns. Sigs are nice, HK’s are extremely nice, Kimbers are just plain awesome, Berrettas rock. You won’t go wrong. The reason I’m with glock is that my personal entropy field screws with any mechanical system. Safeties are missed on the draw or decockers are left in the wrong position. Moving parts break or get sand in them. Glock’s have the virtue of being incredibly reliable — they go bang every time with no extra motions necessary to operate any controls. Your holster is your “safety” (second to your brain being engaged).

Regardless of which one you pick, stick with it. Learn one weapon system really well and get good with that. There is no perfect gun, but Glocks are really good.


64 posted on 04/08/2009 3:43:08 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Choose Ye This Day

when i had to buy, i chose the browning as having a better feel, less recoil, and way more accurate.


65 posted on 04/08/2009 3:45:46 PM PDT by haole (John 10 30)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I have a Glock 23 and an XD45 (the finest in Serbo-Croatian gunsmithing) Like’em both.
66 posted on 04/08/2009 3:46:00 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Both excellent. Neither is my choice.

I have heard from a reliable source (who bought it for his wife, really expecting to love it) that the XD has function problems regarding dirty magazines. If you’re betting your life on it, test it plenty to verify it works slightly dirty. Try to make it fail.

The best advice is to test them both, and buy the one your heart really wants.


67 posted on 04/08/2009 3:46:54 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Security sucks. I want my freedom back.)
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To: Frantzie

My daily carry is a CZ P01. Absolutely love it. And no it’s not a “target pistol”. It’s a service pistol. They aren’t cheap anymore though. Used to be less expensive than known name brands, but now they pretty much the same price, if not more expensive.

Can probably thank their rifles getting a lot of good feedback from sportsman and target shooters making CZ-USA a name brand that people don’t scoff at.


68 posted on 04/08/2009 3:47:34 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: FateAmenableToChange
Learn one weapon system really well and get good with that.

Outstanding advice. A repeat and a BTT.

69 posted on 04/08/2009 3:50:45 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Choose Ye This Day

But I wonder if Glocks are more durable in the long run...


They may be durable, but the big difference is that they advertise durability heavily, unlike their comparable competition.


70 posted on 04/08/2009 3:52:31 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Security sucks. I want my freedom back.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

As a NRA-certified instructor, my advice for any handgun that may ever be used for self-protection is to get a revolver...minimum .38 special. If you’re absolutely sure that it will be used only used for target shooting, then try several models of semi-automatics to see which one feels best to you. I personally don’t like Glocks.


71 posted on 04/08/2009 3:53:49 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Did you look at an M & P? I have a G-22 and I just bought a XD-9 today. $671.00. Put 50 through it and decided to change to the large back strap. That 3/32 spring steel pin was kind of a pain. Like the XD match grade barrel. I hit vitals every round at 20 yards standing. It has a longer pull than my G-22. Slick to clean. Don’t like the spring. Like the striker status indicator. Like the loaded chamber indicator. Mostly bought it so when the SHTF I have a 9 MM

My buddy at work has the M & P in 9. I’ve fired it and it was solid. He tried to talk me into it instead of the XD to no avail.


72 posted on 04/08/2009 3:56:18 PM PDT by mainevet
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I'm a 1911 guy normally. However, I have shot the Glock and the XD. Glocks just leave me cold. I much prefer the Springfield. I especially like the grip safety.
73 posted on 04/08/2009 3:58:07 PM PDT by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Can’t go wrong either way

I carry the Glock on duty

But prefer the grip angle and trigger squeeze on the XD

Figure out which you prefer


74 posted on 04/08/2009 3:58:18 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Don't overlook CZs

75 posted on 04/08/2009 4:00:28 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Springfield XD-M. Higher capacity. Better trigger. Match barrel. Grip and manual safety [like a 1911 A1, which I used in the Army].


76 posted on 04/08/2009 4:11:51 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Check out the certified pre-owned Sigs.

The mostly come from police departments and they have hardly been fired. Sig replaces all necessary parts and you can usually get them for a couple hundred less than a new model would cost.

I know a few people who have bought them and they love them.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=55&productid=201


77 posted on 04/08/2009 4:13:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Beelzebubba

I have an XD-40, went out with some friends who are loaders. We put 500 rounds through it in 3 hours, got it dirtier than all get out, didn’t have a single problem with the function of the weapon.
Very accurate weapon from 10 to 20 yards, but then again me and my friends shoot just about every weekend, so most of what I have shoots pretty accurate..


78 posted on 04/08/2009 4:20:03 PM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: TexasM1A

The other nice thing with the XDs is that cleaning them couldn’t be easier.


79 posted on 04/08/2009 4:24:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
W/o knowing your experience level, sex, age etc, anyone would be hard pressed to make a recommendation...

That said, first things first-go to a reputable handgun trainer (check out NRA.org for a list of NRA certified instructors in your area) get a basic course in handgun-(from your post that said you shot low/left w/ a glcok-probably more your grip, stance and follow-through than the gun itself)

Next-what is the primary purpose of your choice of handgun? At home self-defense, concealed carry, casual plinking, big game hunting, etc (yes, all are niches that can be and should be filled with a dedicated system geared to that purpose!).

Get the training first, shoot the trainers handguns (usually they have a diverse selection. If you attend a course with a other students-try what they have, shooters are probably the most friendly group you'll spend time with, in my experience!

God Bless

NRA certified rifle and pistol instructor, MO CCW Instr, etc.

80 posted on 04/08/2009 4:25:09 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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