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Weekly Sci-Fi Thread (03/22/09)
03/22/09 | Kevin Davis

Posted on 03/22/2009 7:26:48 AM PDT by KevinDavis

This week in SciFi:

Sun:
8/7 -- Kings (Dystopian Future) -- NBC

Wed:
8/7 -- Lost -- ABC

Fri:
8/7 -- Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles -- Fox
9/8 -- The Dollhouse -- Fox


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: bsg; scifi
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To: Perdogg; All

I stand corrected.... Alternate history is SciFi... I wonder what happened to the US in the Alternate timeline..


21 posted on 03/22/2009 11:25:06 AM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: Truth29

Well, out of the 35,000 humans, they stated that scientists had determined all humanity descended from one “Eve” which was the cylon-human hybrid.

Looks like things did not work out for the human or cylon survivors.


22 posted on 03/22/2009 11:43:22 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc
"Well, out of the 35,000 humans, they stated that scientists had determined all humanity descended from one ?Eve? which was the cylon-human hybrid.

Looks like things did not work out for the human or cylon survivors."

Good point. I didn't catch that. Maybe that was the writers' attempt at an antidote to the end scenes of unequiped people walking off into an apparent green paradise.

23 posted on 03/22/2009 12:00:04 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29; All

Well it kinda fit in the whole Battlestar Mythos.. There are those who believe that life here began out there..


24 posted on 03/22/2009 12:21:50 PM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: dangerdoc

Yeah, I caught that, too. Spoiler alert. My big take-aways from it were Cavil blowing his brains out and Tyrol wringing the life out of Tory regardless of the consequences. That was cool. I thought the battle was a big of a muddled mess. The big ending wasn’t bad but I didn’t think it was particularly great, either. The death of Roslin was handled well but the ending of Starbuck wasn’t, in my opinion.


25 posted on 03/22/2009 2:35:55 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: All
Still enjoying the Legend of the Seeker quite a bit. It's willing to take some really tough plot twists without being as pessimistic as the new Galactica was. Enjoyed Kings more than I thought I would and I plan on continuing to watch it. Lost seems to be firing on all cylinders and I'm looking forward to it more than I had for a while. Chuck is still my favorite show right now (it has quasi-science fiction elements and it a lot like Greatest American Hero without the suit) and I may give up on NBC entirely if they cancel it.
26 posted on 03/22/2009 2:39:53 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: xkaydet65

While I liked seeing the original Cylons, I thought the original show’s music just didn’t fit the new show.


27 posted on 03/22/2009 2:40:57 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Scutter

I agree, it’s one thing to start over and it’s quite another to be stupid and wasteful. I thought it was a dumb message personally. Overall the ending was pretty good but I found some of it a bit over the top in the human progress is bad dept.


28 posted on 03/22/2009 3:17:49 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: KevinDavis

So did you watch Kings and is it a glorified soap opera?


29 posted on 03/22/2009 3:18:27 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: visualops; All

I have to watch for a bit longer to make it a determination..


30 posted on 03/22/2009 3:43:03 PM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: KevinDavis

Can’t be all bad then if you want to keep watching LOL


31 posted on 03/22/2009 4:16:25 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: visualops; All

LOL!!!!


32 posted on 03/22/2009 4:17:02 PM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: Question_Assumptions

“I thought the battle was a big of a muddled mess.”

I’ve been in combat, a muddled mess is an apt description. That part was probably the most realistic. In battle, there are bullets flying, you don’t know if they are coming or going, everybody is running, all of the plans you talked about ahead of time go out the window and you just do what you are trained to do and take the order of the guy in charge of you and hope for the best.

That battle was probably my favorite part of the whole movie. Everybody is running and gunning, CO is on the line trying to hold his ship together to buy enough time for his crew to complete their mission, nobody knows exactly what they are doing but they fall back on training, interlocking fire, fire and retreat, finding cover. It was pretty cool.

“The big ending wasn’t bad”

Considering how bad most SciFi shows end, this one was pretty good. It was pretty consistent with the show as a whole and it didn’t feel like they pulled the ending out of their buttocks at the last moment.

Some have argued that nobody would walk away from their tech but after 5 years of living in metal eating artifical food with tech chasing them down to kill them, going native would not be a hard sell.


33 posted on 03/22/2009 4:19:40 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: visualops

It wasn’t that human progress was bad, it’s that they had gotten themselves into a cycle. Remember “all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again”. They gave up all their technology to try to break that cycle, because if they kept the cycle they know how it ends (with the world destroyed, again). And then the tagger in the modern day was just asking the question, did they break the cycle? We’re making robots “again”, making robots that look like people (well sort of) “again”, will they be Cylons, will there be another Cylon rebellion, will it ALL happen again? Or did we learn some essential truth having to build up to this the long way that will break the cycle? It’s not that progress is bad, it’s that progress has risks, we develop tools that are good for living AND killing. And now that we’re developing tools that will probably have some level of self awareness that has potential problems, it’ll be a very bad thing if the robots of the future go all Spartacus on us.


34 posted on 03/22/2009 4:26:56 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: dangerdoc

While a muddled mess may be realistic, it isn’t necessarily right for novels, TV shows, or movies, where an audience has to follow what’s happening. In fact, part of the magic of “reality” shows is that they turn a muddle mess into a narrative that the audience can follow because most people don’t like watching muddled messes.


35 posted on 03/22/2009 5:13:14 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: KevinDavis
Got home from Lunacon a little while ago, but too tired to watch the BSG finale. By the way, did it go over its time slot? I was warned after I was up there that the timer might now work properly.

Irony: 1000 SF fans at a hotel for a convention the night of the BSG finale -- and the hotel doesn't carry the SciFi channel! Tee hee!! Now try to spoil it!

Some desperate fans generously tipped the waitress in the bar to turn up the sound on the TV and turn down the stereo system. (The bar had it's own satellite dish unrelated to the hotel's offerings.)

36 posted on 03/22/2009 6:09:07 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (The sun glinted off chiseled pectorals sculpted during four weight-lifting sessions each week and...)
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To: Tanniker Smith; All

Well my DVR timer did work, so if you have one it should work..


37 posted on 03/22/2009 6:13:12 PM PDT by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: KevinDavis

You left out the two hour Stargate SG-1 movie Friday evening.


38 posted on 03/23/2009 1:01:22 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Truth29
Eve?

So that would make Adam, who? One of the aboriginal tribesmen? Or Adam-a Junior?
39 posted on 03/23/2009 5:13:17 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: visualops
So did you watch Kings and is it a glorified soap opera?

Dynasty or Dallas genre mixed with Shakespearean tragedy.

But, so far it has been entertaining. Surprisingly (considering it is on NBC), it has had little (so far) in the way of agenda. I did notice a possible line or two in the first episode, but it wasn't overt.

Briefly,
Queen's brother bankrupts the treasury because he is in a pissing contest with King, as Captain (outsider/hero) romances the King's daughter, and the King's son plays the playboy as a cover.


I like it, so far. :)
40 posted on 03/23/2009 5:23:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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