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Freepers have to plan for the day when the internet is disabled or shut down
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Posted on 03/06/2009 9:40:37 AM PST by George from New England

Edited on 03/06/2009 10:19:26 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

We need to learn of local ham/amateur radio operators and us ham operators need to have a pre-established network with designated frequencies to get our message out and around.

Don't wait for the day that either due to martial law or other catastrophic events, our communication paths are severed or greatly blocked.

I suspect there are many ham license holders that are freepers as well. We need to know about each other before the day when we wished we had done this.

George, [Edited by poster's request - AM]


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To: DonaldC

No, the only way I know to disable RF propagation is by using artificial ionization. Even that has limits.


21 posted on 03/06/2009 9:55:18 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: George from New England

22 posted on 03/06/2009 9:56:04 AM PST by smokingfrog ( Dear Mr. Obama - Please make it rain candy! P.S. I like jelly beans.)
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To: George from New England

I still remember a story a friend told us back in the ‘80’s: When he was young, he knew another teen who’d been communicating with someone in Russia via radio. (I don’t know which kind of radio.) They were just having friendly conversations, but, at one point, the “authorities” showed up to interrogate him at home, and they took his radio.

Apparently, radio communications are monitored, too.


23 posted on 03/06/2009 9:56:12 AM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: geologist

Well, go back and tell him to take a basic physics class, because he is an idiot.


24 posted on 03/06/2009 9:58:59 AM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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To: lucky american

I am not enough of a ham to know what band is best to use (remember my gear is essential led packed up).

How do we pick a good frequency. I think a first, second, third choice list for frequency/band.

Any ham operator that is better versed and has used the airwaves for years could really help at this point.


25 posted on 03/06/2009 9:59:10 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: George from New England
The airwaves can only be jambed, not shut down. I cannot see the feds actually interfering with all frequencies across the entire 48 states and stopping individuals with batteries/generators and radios from talking.
R They won't have to jam the airwaves to effect ham radio operators or any other technological means. You're missing my point. What some people consider free speech the socialists controlling the airwaves will classify as hate speech etc... and consequently shutdown individuals.
26 posted on 03/06/2009 10:00:34 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: George from New England

Good idea. I hope there are backup plans being made to facilitate communications.

However, I don’t think it is wise to publicize the exact plans at this time.


27 posted on 03/06/2009 10:01:14 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: George from New England

Sorry for the boldface. I didn’t apply one of my html tags correctly.


28 posted on 03/06/2009 10:01:55 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: smokingfrog

There are ways of minimizing the transmission times too.

We maybe at war someday too soon.


29 posted on 03/06/2009 10:02:21 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: All

Yeah, but how would the ‘caption this’ threads work over the airwaves?


30 posted on 03/06/2009 10:03:24 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: patton
HE PROBABLY LEARNED VIA THE ARMED FORCES TO BE A RADIO OPERATOR. HE IS AN OLDER GUY.

SO ARE YOU SAYING, IF HE IS NOT USING HIS SET DURING A PULSE (ooopppsss!) ...it will no longer work? Or is it the tubes that are not susceptible?

STOP THE DIRECTION WE ARE MOVING NOW.

31 posted on 03/06/2009 10:04:05 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: George from New England

Perhaps start by introducing yourself to your neighbors.
If your need is to go hi-tech, fine.
But don’t ignore the obvious.


32 posted on 03/06/2009 10:05:18 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: smokingfrog

Can we get Obama to use this direction finding equipment to show them they are headed in the wrong direction?


33 posted on 03/06/2009 10:05:29 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: DonaldC
I would think HAM can be disabled easier than the net.

Too many of them. Plus broad spectrum jammers don't have the juice to jam much more than a small area. Direction Finding you'd have to worry about but the vehicles are easy to spot and the more strategic assets would have more on their plate should it come down to this.

34 posted on 03/06/2009 10:10:38 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Yes, Gorbachev is better than Obama. At least Gorbachev admitted he was a Communist)
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To: George from New England

George, about how much of an investment would it take to talk to you from Port Angeles, Washington?

AND, can relative secure communications be made over he airways? I suspect not, but I don’t know what’s available or legal on this subject.

I know from personal experience that in any emergency, failure or lack of communications, can mean the difference between success or failure—life and death.


35 posted on 03/06/2009 10:15:17 AM PST by Gator113 (For America to survive, Obama must fail.....)
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To: geologist

EMP is the ultimate zot - it induces current between metal bits, which are seperated by even a small distance.

This current tends to fry electronics.

Vacuum tubes are less succeptible to EMP than solid state - but they can still fry, given the right pulse.

So, the answer to your question...”IF HE IS NOT USING HIS SET DURING A PULSE (ooopppsss!) ...it will no longer work?”

...depends on what type of set, and how well he buried it. A faraday cage will work - but then, you cannot broadcast, can you?


36 posted on 03/06/2009 10:15:26 AM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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To: DonaldC

Actually no it can’t.

LLS


37 posted on 03/06/2009 10:18:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: smokingfrog

It’s called triangulation and it’s simple. I’ve used it to find downed aircraft.


38 posted on 03/06/2009 10:19:01 AM PST by Gator113 (For America to survive, Obama must fail.....)
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To: Gator113

A more experience ham radio operator is needed for the best answer.

It will depend on atmospherics of course. I have the license primarily to be legal and have only talked once with an operator from Tennessee (I think).

I suspect that message relaying would be common place to get the non-MSM, uncensored messages out.


39 posted on 03/06/2009 10:19:42 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Ping to my ham... ham operator hubby.


40 posted on 03/06/2009 10:20:14 AM PST by pnut22
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