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Synthetic Life Form Grows in Fla. Lab
discovery.com ^ | Feb. 27, 2009

Posted on 03/04/2009 12:43:07 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Feb. 27, 2009 -- When NASA began thinking about missions to look for life beyond Earth, it realized it had a problem: how to recognize life if it were found.

Scientists came up with a definition for life -- a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution -- but remained understandably fuzzy on the details.

It is still not known how life on Earth took hold, what happened to a bunch of chemicals that made them capable of supporting a metabolism, replicating and evolution. But a new field of science, called synthetic biology, is aiming to find out.

One of the most promising developments lies in a beaker of water inside a Florida laboratory. It's an experiment called AEGIS -- an acronym for Artificially Expanded Genetic Information System. Its creator, Steve Benner, says it is the first synthetic genetic system capable of Darwinian evolution.

(Excerpt) Read more at dsc.discovery.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: abovemypaygrade; culturewar; evolution; id; iowthe1stofanykind; nasa
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1 posted on 03/04/2009 12:43:07 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Seems to me that they’re stretching the bounderies of what can be called life.


2 posted on 03/04/2009 12:45:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; GodGunsGuts; metmom
"It's evolving. It's doing what we designed it to do," said Benner, a biochemist with the Gainesville, Fla.-based Foundation for Applied Molecular Evolution. [Emphasis mine]

I believe this states the relevant.

3 posted on 03/04/2009 12:47:29 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Scientists came up with a definition for life -- a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution

So is a fetus alive?

A baby is not self-sustaining for quite awhile even after being "born". You have to feed a baby, it won't seek out food on it's own initially.

4 posted on 03/04/2009 12:49:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Do you know the website number?" - VP Joe Biden)
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To: cripplecreek

Seems to me that they’re stretching the bounderies of what can be called life....”

Unless it is a human fetus. It is considered a ‘issue mass’ then, nothing of value or potential.


5 posted on 03/04/2009 12:52:07 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sounds like “The Blob” to me...


6 posted on 03/04/2009 12:52:42 PM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. They're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: AndrewC

Soo...it took a bunch of scientists to concote just the perfect blend of chemicals in a lab...for it all to “randomly” come together.

Random.


7 posted on 03/04/2009 12:53:42 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve seen the evolution of the Corvette. Are you now trying to tell me they are not alive?


8 posted on 03/04/2009 12:54:01 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: Free ThinkerNY; GodGunsGuts
a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution

The nice thing about this definition is that it excludes viruses. Yet it is troublesome since it includes the Earth(and Venus).

9 posted on 03/04/2009 12:56:50 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Soo...it took a bunch of scientists to concote just the perfect blend of chemicals in a lab

Well, let's not be too hasty. They got the test tube to pop the cork off. They haven't got it to reload itself and fire again.

10 posted on 03/04/2009 12:59:11 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That doesn’t seem to be a form of life at all! That’s why I don’t buy Discovery mag any more. Too much hype and not enough science.


11 posted on 03/04/2009 1:00:45 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is a progressive, degenerative disease of the mind.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Scientists came up with a definition for life -- a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution

What? It's only life if it fits into some dead guy's dubious theory?

12 posted on 03/04/2009 1:02:54 PM PST by scottinoc ("Katie, you're not the center of everyone's universe."-Gov Palin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"It's evolving. It's doing what we designed it to do,"

THERE it is.....y'all have proven intelligent design.... /sarc

13 posted on 03/04/2009 1:24:40 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Scientists came up with a definition for life — a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution — but remained understandably fuzzy on the details.”

I produced a living dinosaur from kitchen ingredients, but I’m a little fuzzy on the details, understandably so.


14 posted on 03/04/2009 1:33:14 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think Nasa has discovered jello.


15 posted on 03/04/2009 2:02:22 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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One of the most promising developments lies in a beaker of water inside a Florida laboratory. It's an experiment called AEGIS -- an acronym for Artificially Expanded Genetic Information System. Its creator, Steve Benner,

Oh, the irony......

16 posted on 03/04/2009 3:58:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Oh, the irony......

There is more than one irony, I think. NASA, for its own purposes, has defined life: a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution.

Somebody (several somebodys) has raised the issue of a fetus – is it alive by NASA definition – and the political and ethical issues the question arouses. Let me simply observe that no life (of which we know) is sustainable in an environment that is not suitable for that life’s existence. So, a human fetus is no more in an environment suitable for its sustenance than any other life-form. And, in many instances anyway, I’m not sure what “Darwinian evolution” (micro? macro? natural selection?) has to do with a definition of life.

17 posted on 03/04/2009 5:58:45 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: AndrewC

The creators and designers of life. Heh heh heh.


18 posted on 03/04/2009 7:09:30 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
THERE it is.....y'all have proven intelligent design.... /sarc

I don't understand the "/sarc" part of your comment -- it's quite clearly an example of intelligent design. And not the only one available, the biotech industry being another notable example.

19 posted on 03/04/2009 7:13:35 PM PST by r9etb
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To: YHAOS
I’m not sure what “Darwinian evolution” (micro? macro? natural selection?) has to do with a definition of life.

I think it probably has to do with the successful communication of genetic information from one generation to the next, that is also capable of adapting to environmental changes. By that standard, I suppose one could write a computer virus that is also "alive."

20 posted on 03/04/2009 7:15:52 PM PST by r9etb
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