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What Could Happen: The Collapse of Big Cities, Big Governments and Subsidies
Whiskey & Gunpowder | 2-27-09 | John Stott

Posted on 03/02/2009 3:17:56 PM PST by Jerrybob

I am not trying to be an alarmist, but I am worried about a lot of things. I just have to imagine what the chain reaction of the current downhill slide of the world’s economies can bring. Here’s what I imagine can happen in years to come:

Pensions will go bankrupt or be a shadow of what they were before, causing millions of retirees to be broke and maybe even hungry, with no recourse. Stocks and gold will probably cross at about 3,000. Robberies of banks and citizens will increase many fold, and make the streets of big cities dangerous. The danger will cause movie theatres, night clubs and restaurants to do poor business because of citizen fears of venturing out at night. Cars not in garages or in some way protected, will be subject to theft, break ins or stolen tires and parts, especially in big cities.

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The big cities, with their large numbers of out of work minorities, will become extremely dangerous places to live, and there will be an exodus to safer, small towns, by those who are able, even if it means selling a big city home at a sacrifice price, just to be safe. The infrastructure and utility providers in big cities may become insolvent or fraught with vandalism. Out of work minorities won’t be able to pay utility bills. Without electricity, gas, or water, even for a short time, life can be extremely difficult, and especially in a high-rise building or multi-storey apartment.


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Would like some opinions on this.
1 posted on 03/02/2009 3:17:56 PM PST by Jerrybob
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To: Jerrybob

Sounds like Mexico.


2 posted on 03/02/2009 3:19:03 PM PST by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Jerrybob

I think you are only scratching the surface.


3 posted on 03/02/2009 3:21:30 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Jerrybob

Oh well.The big city dwellers got the gubmint they deserve.


4 posted on 03/02/2009 3:21:45 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Jerrybob

Sounds like reality to me. I read a CIA forecast about the year 2015 few years ago before all this started. It was worse then this outlook.


5 posted on 03/02/2009 3:22:01 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad,)
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To: Jerrybob

Sounds like reality to me. I read a CIA forecast about the year 2015 few years ago before all this started. It was worse then this outlook.


6 posted on 03/02/2009 3:22:20 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad,)
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To: Jerrybob

It’s my understanding that historically, crime has gone down during recessions.


7 posted on 03/02/2009 3:24:49 PM PST by Parmenio
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To: lookout88

The time to prep is now, guns, ammo and food. Decide now if you are and ‘ant’ or a ‘grasshopper’.


8 posted on 03/02/2009 3:25:37 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: Jerrybob

We’ve seen many times before what happens hardship happens in USA.

A flood hits heart-land USA, people come and help each other.

A tornado blows away a small town, and they rebuild it by themselves in a year.

The pioneer spirit is still strong with many in this great country.

Unfortunately, we’ve also seen what happens in places like New Orleans where people will starve to death wondering when government help will arrive.


9 posted on 03/02/2009 3:26:05 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Parmenio

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=crime+rates+during+recession&aq=0&oq=crime+rates+during+re

A lot of reading here.


10 posted on 03/02/2009 3:27:06 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: Kartographer

Ant here, you are right. So am I. Anyone got good freeze drying information?


11 posted on 03/02/2009 3:27:32 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad,)
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To: Dallas59

Sounds like Houston. I live in the “safe for now” suburbs but have to go into the city several times a week, in the past at night because traffic was lighter. Was sitting at a stop light on the feeder in what is considered a relatively good part of town and many, many bikers with the number 13 on their back roared right through the red light - I quit counting at 34 - as fast and with as much noise as they could muster. No more night trips for Grams.


12 posted on 03/02/2009 3:27:53 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Jerrybob
Without electricity, gas, or water, even for a short time, life can be extremely difficult, and especially in a high-rise building or multi-storey apartment.

And then it spreads, out like a cancer to the suburbs, and the war is on.

13 posted on 03/02/2009 3:28:00 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Parmenio
It’s my understanding that historically, crime has gone down during recessions.

Tell that to Dillenger, Machine Gun Kelly, Ma Barker, Al Capone, Pretty Boy Floyd, Bonnie and Clyde, etc., etc., etc.

14 posted on 03/02/2009 3:28:02 PM PST by ProudFossil
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To: Jerrybob

Several prognosticators I’ve read recently (can’t remember names) think there will be a need for folks to re-form into smaller towns and groups for protection purposes. Know your neighbor, trust your neighbor, neighbor relies on neighbor to keep secure from outside influences. Sounds like a step back into clan/tribalism almost.


15 posted on 03/02/2009 3:28:03 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Economists predicting a quick recovery are like the band that continued playing on the Titanic.)
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To: Jerrybob

This is all swell, but it ignores Obama’s greatest strength - and I am dead serious here: An ignorant voting public.

This is why Obama won, in the long run. The rest depended on this key factor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU


16 posted on 03/02/2009 3:28:53 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: Jerrybob

Life in 0bamastan.


17 posted on 03/02/2009 3:29:52 PM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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To: MNDude
We've seen many times before what happens hardship happens in USA.

A flood hits heart-land USA, people come and help each other.

A tornado blows away a small town, and they rebuild it by themselves in a year.

The pioneer spirit is still strong with many in this great country.

Unfortunately, we've also seen what happens in places like New Orleans where people will starve to death wondering when government help will arrive.

And you have just reiterated what the thread topic says. Big cities are hell, small towns and rural areas are strong in a catastrophe.

18 posted on 03/02/2009 3:30:56 PM PST by ProudFossil
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To: lookout88

Dry goods, canned goods, but minimilize the frozen food in case electricity goes down for long periods, and can’t get gas for a generator. Think primitive.


19 posted on 03/02/2009 3:31:20 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Jerrybob

bump


20 posted on 03/02/2009 3:33:47 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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