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What Could Happen: The Collapse of Big Cities, Big Governments and Subsidies
Whiskey & Gunpowder | 2-27-09 | John Stott

Posted on 03/02/2009 3:17:56 PM PST by Jerrybob

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To: Brad's Gramma

I have already used the link, thank you.


61 posted on 03/02/2009 4:24:06 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

And the others?


62 posted on 03/02/2009 4:24:29 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: durasell

Rural folks will be fine if they can fend off the pilferers, it’s the urban cities and suburbia that will suffer most.


63 posted on 03/02/2009 4:26:17 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: durasell
Inner city folks tend not to prowl the countryside....

Especially on foot. However, their pets... might be another story... feral packs.

64 posted on 03/02/2009 4:27:51 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: Jerrybob

I’m curious about the “out of work minorities” phrase being thrown around regaring mischief.

I’m out of work, but not a minority, at least I don’t really consider a white woman as one. I, myself am not likely to vandalize utilities or private property, however. The only class that should fear me should I become really desperate are elite politicians. They are fair game over this as far as I am concerned.

I think at this point that the pen is mightier than the sword. Perhaps if it comes to this kind of anarchy, archery would be a good fall back in the face of all the liberal banning of guns and ammo. I’d like to see them try to ban trees, stone, metal, leather and birds.


65 posted on 03/02/2009 4:30:00 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: mo
“self-Reliance” isn’t much use against bands of hungry maraudering inner city animals prowling the country-side looking for anything of opportunity.

I don't think they'll make it very far past the suburbs. They're out of their element and out in the open.

66 posted on 03/02/2009 4:31:51 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

This is why there will not be one currency....

“According to the New Jersey Department of Labor, during that nearly 4 year period, the private sector, which employs over 4 million workers, eliminated over 31 thousand jobs, while the state and local governments added over 48 thousand jobs with about one-half of that in education. This is just one minor example of the unjustifiable expansion of government while the constituents of the state were struggling to survive. Does government ever reduce the head count? I cannot remember one instance where I’ve read about that circumstance.”

http://www.apatheticvoter.com/PrivateGovernmentEmployment.htm

Simply TOO much overhead associated with gov’mt employment...it bears so little relation to reality that a ruling class in hock to everyone basically is thew world’s last and greatest bubble. The Euro will probably subdivide over Ireland and Greece..


67 posted on 03/02/2009 4:36:41 PM PST by mo
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To: Brad's Gramma

What do you mean? Your link is clearly posted, and they can go there. If you want to start a thread or blog that’s for survival then let’s do it.

I grew up in the rural south on a farm, and I have rode horses, milked cows, fed chickens, gathered eggs, helped garden and grown tobacco, cooked food, canned and dried food, built houses, buildings, drove a tractor, hunted deer, ate game meat, camped, and had an outhouse until I was eight. I slopped a hog at five, and plucked chickens for Sunday dinner, so if I can’t make it, noone can! My mother lives on the land that she and her family made it through the Great Depression on, while doing all those things she taught me ..she’s getting old, but we can still do it if necessary..even with disabilities and old age. It’s like riding a bicycle. Any questions?


68 posted on 03/02/2009 4:37:25 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: tacticalogic

This is an interesting excerpt...

“After all these years I learned that even though the person that lives out in the country is safer when it comes to small time robberies, that same person is more exposed to extremely violent home robberies. Criminals know that they are isolated and their feeling of invulnerability is boosted. When they assault a country home or farm, they will usually stay there for hours or days torturing the owners. I heard it all: women and children getting raped, people tied to the beds and tortured with electricity, beatings, burned with acetylene torches. “

http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2079&Itemid=2

I apologize in advance if this scares folk...but it does come from the one area of the Western Hemisphere that’s already been through something like this this century...


69 posted on 03/02/2009 4:43:11 PM PST by mo
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“So if you have a place to live”

This is good only if your mortgage is paid off.


70 posted on 03/02/2009 4:53:05 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: ProudFossil
It’s my understanding that historically, crime has gone down during recessions.

Tell that to Dillenger, Machine Gun Kelly, Ma Barker, Al Capone, Pretty Boy Floyd, Bonnie and Clyde, etc., etc., etc.

How many of them were active before 1929, and how many only afterward? How many were created by prohibition?

71 posted on 03/02/2009 4:55:07 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: diamond6

How long are wheatberries good when packed airtight (with bay leaves and chitin)?


72 posted on 03/02/2009 4:56:49 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Kackikat

The cities contain vital infrastructures that the gubmint will protect.

For the life of me, I will never understand the paranoia of rural folks concerning urban folks coming to “take their stuff.” Rural folks tend not to have a lot of stuff of value. Let’s face it, in most rural areas spending $20,000 on an engagement ring is a big deal. So, why would someone travel to a rural area when you can mug someone close to home in the city for a $60,000 cocktail ring or $80,000 watch?


73 posted on 03/02/2009 4:57:33 PM PST by durasell
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To: Jerrybob

somewhere around 1933 all the gold was confiscated, and it was a crime to have any of it....do you really think that is going to be worthwhile in a depression?


74 posted on 03/02/2009 4:59:28 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: ProudFossil

good answer.


75 posted on 03/02/2009 5:00:27 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: durasell

In a chaotic depression it will be food that is worth more than diamonds...lol Priorities will be changed in hard times, and those who don’t think and plan ahead will be hardest hit. Those of us who were poor growing up will be able to adjust, since we have been there before. This article about what happened in Argentina during that collapse will help you see...rural isn’t always better, just different way of dealing with it. Building emotional support communities will be paramount, if people can rely on each other.


76 posted on 03/02/2009 5:12:50 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: durasell

forgot the link:

http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2079&Itemid=2


77 posted on 03/02/2009 5:15:17 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Brad's Gramma

Here is a link to someone’s experience during Argentina’s financial collapse, although we may not follow exactly, human nature being corrupt, it may help us think it through beforehand:

http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2079&Itemid=2


78 posted on 03/02/2009 5:17:42 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Jerrybob

I’m glad I live in an under 30,000 city that is in Appalachia right now.


79 posted on 03/02/2009 5:24:04 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Kackikat

The U.S. isn’t Argentina...a better model might be the industrial revolution in england.


80 posted on 03/02/2009 5:26:40 PM PST by durasell
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