Posted on 02/19/2009 9:07:15 AM PST by BGHater
An increasing number of Ohio parents are using religious exemptions to delay or refuse for immunizations for children amid fears that vaccines contribute to autism.
Ohio Department of Health data shows the number of religious or philosophical exemptions nearly quadrupled in Ohio between 1998 and 2008, though that figure still represents fewer than 1 in 100 children.
All states require children to be immunized for school. Most allow religious exemptions, and Ohio and 19 others also permit exemptions for personal reasons.
Doctors say they’re concerned that more exemptions could lead to outbreaks of preventable illnesses among children who haven’t had the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine.
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Do the parents still get threatened with being charged with child abuse/neglect by the doctors?
Dunno.
Excellent post. While I don’t begrudge a religious exemption, way too many folks are ignorant of the realities of life. It wasn’t that long ago that losing a child to disease wasn’t rare, it was pretty much the norm. Yes, some children will have an adverse reaction to the vaccines, and be permanently affected or die. While the loss of a child is always tragic, the greater tragedy would be to not immunize our children against preventable diseases and lose untold numbers of them. Except in rare cases, vaccines are truly a “silver bullet” of modern science. Not perfect, but viewing the potential outcomes, extremely preferable. I believe this is a result of society basing their decision on “feelings”, and not hard facts. Real life always has a way of crashing down.—JM
I have a 3 year old battling neurological disorders on the way to Autism and we trace it back to the 18 month MMR and flu shot. Say what you want, but there are still toxins in vaccines. Not to mention the fact that kids today get 30+ vaccinations which is an assault on their immune system.
My only hope is that when one of their kids gets Whooping Cough, they have to sit by the child’s bed and watch it the whole time.
They are idiots.
I have read this whole vaccine to autism thing debunked. I’ll try to find the link.
Idiots? Tell that to my husbands former co-worker who had a vegetable for a son (for the years his son lived) because a vaccine killed him and he was resuscitated. .
A person on any given day is normally exposed to untold amounts of pathogens (vaccines are attenuated or killed pathogens).
Using your logic that vaccines cause neurological disorders and children have their immune systems "assaulted" by "30+" vaccines, shouldn't natural daily exposure to thousands of pathogens be even MORE devastating and cause more neurologic disorders?
When she contracted whooping cough, it was heart wrenching - I can still hear her cough and see her poor face turning blue from lack of oxygen. And I was told hers was a mild case!
After watching her go through it and the very slow recovery I could easily see why this disease was a major killer of young children.
If someone is that sensitive to the vaccine, it may be likely they would have been even more in danger from the disease itself.
The thousands of pathogens that these children encounter on a daily basis arent shot directly into their bloodstreams. I had a discussion with my children’s pediatrician. He said they are exposed to more mercury by eating tuna. I said that when we eat something our body can process it and eliminate some of it. When we put it in our bloodstream it is there to stay. He didnt have an answer.
BTW, I do have my kids vaccinated but only when they are older, with the shots spread further apart and only the major vaccines. I am not anti vaccine just cautious.
Where is the scientific evidence linking ANY vaccine to ANY abreaction that the Mothers Of America claim?
After $17,400,000 in research, there is none!
Vaccines are never given intravenously, so they do NOT go directly into the bloodstream.
You are correct that immunizations (and the resulting mercury and other toxins) are not shot directly into the bloodstream using an IV. After reading your post, it made me think about that and I wondered where I had gotten that information. I did some research and alot of what I read on the subject says that injecting an immunization into the arm/leg via a shot causes the immunization to be introduced into the bloodstream. Some of what I read said it was highly unlikely that the immunization would make it to the bloodstream. So although my former post may not be correct, I feel better knowing that I wasnt making it up LOL! Anyway, a shot is an unnatural way of introducing the body to something (not always bad but unnatural). If we have a pathogen introduced through the nose/mouth our body has a defense mechanism for getting rid of it (ie sneezing, coughing, bowel movement etc) In we injest something toxic to our system, our body has some defense. If we shoot it into our arm, what does the body do with it? I was just raising the question. My pediatrician didnt have an answer. In other words, just because our body can process mercury that has been eaten, that doesnt mean it can process mercury that has been directly injected into the body. I am not against immunizations but I am cautious and dont believe everything the government and doctors tell me concerning them. I hope that explains a little better the point I was trying to make.
The concept of an immunization is that an antigen (live but weakened, or killed) is introduced into the body (usually by injection or orally), the immune system is “tricked” into thinking that the antigen could cause an infection, and antibodies are then produced to protect the body against future “infections” (it also explains the fever, malaise, and redness and warmth at the injection site; this is an immune system reaction to fight off the “foreign invader”).
When the antigen is injected, it does eventually make it into the bloodstream. As for a shot being an “unnatural” way of introduction, what are the implications of that vs “natural” introduction? Does it make a difference if a child gets Chicken Pox from breathing in virus expelled from an infected person via cough or sneeze vs. swabbing an uncrusted pox with a cotton swab and wiping it in an uninfected person’s nose? (not that anyone would do that, but I’m just trying to illustrate natural vs unnatural) The end result would be the same.
As for “toxins”, that is a very broad term that is relative. For example, if I drink a bottle of water, it’s not toxic. However, if I ingest several gallons in a day, that would be toxic (rare, but it’s happened before). Anything has the potential to be “toxic” (even water), but it’s all relative. So when someone says “toxins” in regards to a vaccine, that to me is meaningless.
As for mercury, infant vaccines do not contain it. Several years ago, vaccines were usually in multi-dose vials preserved with thimersol; now, they are in single-dose syringes or vials. The only vaccine that I can think of for those under 18 are some brands of flu vaccine that may come packaged in multi-dose vials. This is mainly due to the fact that the dose is the same for ages 3-adult. There are also single dose syringes for this age group; it depends on what your doc buys.
As for thimersol (a great preservative, but rarely used due to fear of mercury “poisoning”), it is an ethyl mercury, whereas industrial mercury is a methyl mercury. Mercury toxicity is a result of chronic long term exposure. Ethyl mercury is cleared much more quickly from the body than methyl mercury. And, there is no scientific proof that ANY of this causes autism. But it’s a moot point, as it’s not used.
Please don’t think this post is a “flame”; it isn’t. I’m just trying to explain all of this, as there is a lot of misinformation and panic on vaccines. I’m glad that you are not taken in by the panic, yet are cautious. Medicine is constantly changing, and what is accepted one year is taboo the next. I myself am fairly cautious, although I try to be informed as well as I can before deciding on treatments for myself (I’ve had a lot of those types of decisions these past few years, as I’ve had kidney failure and a recent kidney transplant).
I’m far from an expert, but I do try to keep up on these things; I’ve been a Pediatric RN for 20 years, have seen a fair share of tragic vaccine preventable disease, and have had many discussions on this subject with an autism specialist that I used to work with.
I was discussing the flu vaccine with the pediatrician. It does contain mercury. He suggested it and I refused and he wanted to know why. We are in a low risk group as homeschoolers and I have had a bad reaction to the flu vaccine before. I understand how vaccines work. By toxins, I was referring specifically to things in a vaccine that arent the vaccine itself (mercury, formaldehyde etc.) I do not know if autism is caused from vaccines but I do know that alot of what we consume both medicines and foods contain stuff that our bodies are not meant to have. I try to stay away as much as possible. My question to my pediatrician was whether or not something ingested in my system was the same as something introduced by a needle into my system. He had not thought about it and did not have an answer. That is all I am saying. Alot of things are approved on the market before anyone has thought about all the consequences. Parents are questioning it and I think it is a good thing. It keeps drug companies accountable. We aren’t sheep.
Parents not wanting vials filled with seven different disease antibodies, many different preservatives, culture media of all sorts, including from animals and chemical sources, injected into their newborn babies repeatedly at 2, 4, and 6 months of age? What, are they crazy?
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