Peru's Scratchpad The Nazca Plain

sundayobserver ^ | Sunday, 15 February 2009

[JoeProBono]

The world we live in is full of mysteries and man has been searching answers for them from time immemorial. However, no matter how advanced science has become, there are still many mysteries that cannot be unravelled by science. They continue to baffle us. The famous Nazca lines of Peru, which are associated with the Incan civilization by some scientists, have become a great puzzle; no one has yet come up with an acceptable theory as to why the Nazca Indians who lived in this area between 300 BC and AD 800, have drawn them.

[WoofDog123]

I will add that the Nazca lines are one of the mysteries of the ancient world that continues to fascinate me, as one of the most obvious answers is only unacceptable because the related topic (UFO’s/things coming down from the sky) is involved. If there is a future world in which it is recognized by the State that UFO’s happen, then perhaps these will be looked at with somewhat different options.

The single most odd item I can recall at the moment is the Ark of the Covenant. So much of what is described in the old testament about it reads like bronze age people trying to describe very advanced technology. (ref - Hal Clement, who actually wrote sci-fi stories along these themes.)

[cripplecreek]

There are a lot of earthen indian mounds here in the USA that are nothing more than low hills when seen from the ground. When they’re viewed from above we find that they’re animal shapes. They’re all across the midwest.

The only real difference is in scale but that can be explained by the fact that the Nazca makers didn’t have to deal with forests. Also there’s the fact that desert preserves these things better.

The Hopewell indians seem to have been especially active in making them.

[WoofDog123]

are there pottery examples of nazca depiction of people? Wondering of the figure here is how they draw people on more conventional objects.

[WoofDog123]

I was not aware of this. I will google hopewell/mounds etc. and take a look!

[cripplecreek]

America is covered with mounds big and small.

http://www.greatdreams.com/mounds.htm

[JoeProBono]

Serpent Mound

"Today the mound building cultures go under the names of Cahokia, Adena, Hopewell, and a number of other names. A number of famous parks and sites today are attributed to the mound builders, such as Monks Mound in Illinois and Serpent Mound in Ohio."

[cripplecreek]

I’ve been to the serpent mound.

[JoeProBono]

I'd like to get the lay of that land personally

[cripplecreek]

At 14 it just looked like a Grassy knoll to me.

[SunkenCiv]

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[rdl6989]

I’ve always been fascinated by Nazca.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Try finding that on Google maps if you can’t sleep.

[Quix]

EXCEEDINGLY PLAUSIBLE, TO ME.

THX.

[beebuster2000]

Helen, the next quetsion is yours

[Quix]

OH DEAR!

NOT ANOTHER

. . .. GRASSY KNOLL!

[Quix]

INDEED.

THX
THX.

[JoeProBono]

[Quix]

that was fast!

LOL.

[Oatka]

So much of what is described in the old testament about it reads like bronze age people trying to describe very advanced technology.

One of the classics is Ezekiel. For someone who had seen nothing more advanced than a chariot (if that), he did a first rate job of describing people using mechanical devices.

There was a great story back in the 60s titled "The Four-Faced Visitors of Ezekiel", wrtten by an engineer (not the later NASA guy). He gave an astounding/eye-opening interpretation of Zeke's "vision". The "creatures" were space-suited men and their four faces were: left side (face of a bull) were antenna (horns) for communication; right side (face of a lion) a respirator; fronts (face of an eagle and face of a man) a man waering a facemask breather).

The "wings" were four blades of a helicopter backpack. Zeke marveled that "when the wings turned, the men turned not" - blades were windmilling. Suddenly "wheels" appeared above the mens' heads (the "wings" disappeared - they are never mentioned the same time as the wheels). Zeke couldn't figure out if the "wheels" pulled the men up into the sky or if the men pushed them up. The mysterious "wheel within a wheel" is one that we've all seen on TV or in the movies or in real life. Remember the movies with the racing stagecoach and the "wheel within a wheel" illusion of the stagecoach's wheels - the same as watching chopper blades in motion?

Of all the interpretations of Zeke's experience, that one seemed the most logical. The hook comes in when trying to figure out who those advanced folks were in those pre-industrial days. Sounds like a violation of the first Star Trek's Prime Directive.

[brewer1516]

Goin’ to Montana soon; gonna be a dental floss tycoon.