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Police Kill Family Dog During Raid (yet another isolated incident)
ABC News ^ | 2/7/09 | Jeff Hager

Posted on 02/07/2009 3:04:18 PM PST by ellery

"They hit the door right here and the door flew open," says Mike Hasenei, standing outside his Elkridge home.

His wife, Phyllis, was watching television with her 12-year old daughter when members of the Howard County Police Tactical Team came through the door.

"They had guns pointed at us. You have 25 guys coming in here all dressed in black and all that we saw were their eyes, and they're screaming 'Hands in the air!'"

Members of the team were acting upon a tip that an assault rifle, magazines and hollow-point bullets stolen from a marked police car the night before may be located inside.

Adding insult to injury, when the search led police to a back bedroom where they encountered the family’s dog, they opened fire.

Officers found no evidence of the stolen goods after ransacking the house.

At this point a complaint has been logged against the department, but Howard County Police aren't about to admit they were wrong or to apologize for their actions.

"No. We didn't find a weapon in this particular case,” said Sherry Llewellyn, a spokeswoman for the department, “but that doesn't mean that there wasn't good information that there were weapons there before we had a chance to get inside the house."

Now, Mike Hasenei is waiting on an Internal Affairs investigation into the raid before deciding whether he and his family will take the department to court.

"I'm not gonna sit down and let people walk all over me and say 'sorry' and walk out of my house."


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; banglist; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; jbts; killthejackboots; leo; lp; lping; policestate; rapeofliberty; streetganginblue; swat; thugswithbadges; warondogs
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To: IrishCatholic

It is called conducting a thorough investigation and looking before you leap. Yes, it takes time, but it protects citizens and the police.


241 posted on 02/07/2009 10:28:43 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: ApplegateRanch

You would be just the kind of person to do it too, aren’t you.
I see no difference between your thinking and Code Pink’s. You just hate different people that keep us safe. Other than that, mirror image.


242 posted on 02/07/2009 10:28:56 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I border Army Corps land with access to a major watershed. The fun will be unlimited. :^)


243 posted on 02/07/2009 10:31:28 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: hinckley buzzard

Sure I belong here. I can think.
Since the “jack booted thug” cop haters here are all up in arms based on the “info” and “circumstances” in the article, do you have an “info” not presented?

This is what public education has done to this country. All the replies on this thread show the government should have no say in education. It’s pitiful.


244 posted on 02/07/2009 10:32:17 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

Let me answer. Ring..Ring..Ring.. Hello? ....

Q..We believe you have stolen property from the PD.
A..What?
Q..We believe you have stolen property from the PD.
A..I don’t think so..
Q..Will you and all inhabitants come out to verify you are not a threat to our safety while we check?
A..Uh..OK give me a minute

QQ..All clear

Damn that was tough! Whats the dogs name?


245 posted on 02/07/2009 10:38:33 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: IrishCatholic
What an a**hat you are. Read your comments and then set back an listen to yourself. They broke into this guys house, handcuffed his 12 yo daughter, shot the dog, an Australian shepard BTW, a very docile breed,and caused all sorts of trauma to the family, all because(and this is admitted by the police)they had the wrong address, and you are stupid enough to ask what kind of guy this was that they raided?

It doesn't matter if he was Jack the Ripper, they had the wrong house, the info was wrong, they shouldn't have been there in the first place, it was unconstitutional, unlawful, illegal, a violation of the people's civil rights and you want to know if the guy has ever had a criminal record?

What you should be asking is if there is someway they can put these criminal frickin' LEOs behind bars for about 10 or 15 years.

246 posted on 02/07/2009 10:39:17 PM PST by calex59
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You bet. Like the government auditing you then fining you or jailing you if your late or behind etc...Yet who is auditing the government? A government that isn’t even capable of balancing a check book or staying within a simple common sense budget, with no fear of punishment.


247 posted on 02/07/2009 10:42:05 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ellery
No, you didn't post plenty of facts. You posted the links with the stories AFTER I called you on it. While you posted the original story that didn't have the info you posted later. Info you could have posted below but didn't. Why didn't you?
And you too are missing some things. Such as the internal investigation is still ongoing and we still don't know what other aspects are going on in the criminal investigation.

I presume that if in a few weeks time if all of them are arrested in the case or other facts come out you will be the first to update us.......yea, sure.

I do bet if they fire the cop that shot the dog you will be the first to ping me and crow. But I didn't defend the actions of the police, despite the hysterical postings from the trailer park. I asked for the facts. If you don't think I was accurate, well, I admit I didn't print off the article. I simply read them and moved on. I come here for news and rarely get involved with mud fights.

Somewhere along these posts I pointed out after reading the article where it was mentioned the actions of the dog and the breed the cop wasn't justified, based on the report. But that is lost to the screaming yahoos.

From all the flack since it seems CODE ORANGE (FR Cop Haters) have grown as large and malicious as the Neo Confederates ever were.

248 posted on 02/07/2009 10:45:14 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: papertyger

“Taking the info at face value” was the key part. It makes your three paragraphs after that pretty meaningless.


249 posted on 02/07/2009 10:46:45 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

No justification needed. I threw a general description out there and you saw yourself in the mirror.

I’m reminded of when Bush went to Israel and talked about appeasers and all the Democrats screamed he was talking about them.


250 posted on 02/07/2009 10:48:21 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic
A definition of Neo Confederate may be required.
251 posted on 02/07/2009 10:51:59 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

Well, at least you went on the facts as presented in the article, not the first one, the one at the links later.

The one where a judge signed the warrant.

You know, the judge.

Did you read the one where I found out from the link provided later the dog turned out to be an Australian cattle dog (I don’t remember what the other one was) The one where I said the article said the dogs ran away? The one that said if accurate it wasn’t justified in shooting the dog? No?

Oh, wait, maybe facts don’t mean anything. Post away.


252 posted on 02/07/2009 10:52:46 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

Then you know somebody presented wrong facts to the judge. Who is that?


253 posted on 02/07/2009 11:00:51 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: ellery

Can you really just ‘pencil in’ a new name on a warrant?


254 posted on 02/07/2009 11:03:58 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: eyedigress
Who said anyone presented wrong facts to the judge? Where was that indicated in any of the links? Just because they didn't find anything doesn't mean the person didn't do anything.
Example: How many times did they search Casey Anthony's house and area around her house? Who says they didn't have good info? So far this has been long on emotion and very, very short on facts or reason.
Too much prejudice and bigotry and not enough facts. My original post seems clairvoyant.
255 posted on 02/07/2009 11:40:26 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

So far all I have is a swat team raided mom and daughter and shot a dog looking for a rifle. I have been absent tonite and missed the updates. Thanks for clarification. :^)


256 posted on 02/07/2009 11:45:07 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: November Gale

Well it sure looks like you’re looking for a problem to have to throw a trauma drama over.

Frankly, I think that anyone in law enforcement today MUST sacrifice their common decency just to practice the occupation. Lying, misrepresentation, equivocation, and duplicity are just how the game is played these days.

Tell me your husband NEVER in his twenty five years piled on extra charges just because a suspect pissed him off, and I’ll agree with you on what a good guy he is. If not, as far as I’m concerned, you’re just as bad as he is.


257 posted on 02/07/2009 11:49:33 PM PST by papertyger
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To: November Gale
I’d like to see that stat too. Seems to me, a lot of “innocent” people get arrested all the time. Everyone is “innocent” in prison too. I’m sure you’d agree with that statement too.

This is exactly the kind of agressive ignorance we are complaining about. If I doubted you were actually married to a cop, the way you doubted another poster was formerly in law enforcement, I certainly believe it now. You act just like one.

258 posted on 02/07/2009 11:56:13 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Gondring

Great and valid points all!


259 posted on 02/08/2009 12:09:43 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: IrishCatholic
Who says they didn't have good info?

The fact that they have failed to find any evidence connecting their stolen toy to "Mike".

How it's looking now: Some informant told them that a guy named "Mike" took their gun. They looked up their perp list and came up with "Michael L. Piccioni" and had a warrant prepared. During the time it took them to find the judge they got info the Picconi was acquainted with Michael L. Smith.

Now they know their informant isn't the most reliable of guys so on one of the copies of the warrant, they cross out "Michael L. Piccioni" and scribble in "Michael L. Smith". "just sign here Judge - trust us we're cops"

They then go off to plan raids on the Picconi and Smith residences. When they ask the computer for Smith's address, it comes up with an old one under the name of "Michael Hasenei". If you're a cop you don't think too deeply, so you hit all the Mike Gang's cribs

One thing you don't do is admit to yourself that some lowlife informant stiffed you with the wrong info.

260 posted on 02/08/2009 12:10:57 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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