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NO STIMULUS!
Americans For Prosperity ^ | 2009 | AFP

Posted on 02/05/2009 2:29:19 PM PST by penelopesire

Don't Let the Trillion Dollar No-Stimulus Bill Pass the Senate! Take a stand against the Pelosi-Reid-Obama big-government pork-barrel spending bill by signing our online petition TODAY! Last week, the trillion dollar, unprecedented explosion in federal spending misleadingly called a "stimulus" package passed a vote in the House, but all the House Republicans and 11 House Democrats stood up to Nancy Pelosi and voted 'no' to bigger government, more debt, and more wasteful programs.

This bill is not inevitable!

The bill needs 60 votes to pass in the Senate. We have the public on our side, and with enough grassroots pressure we'll win!

(Excerpt) Read more at nostimulus.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 111th; bhostimulus; bo; communism; obama; petition; porkulus
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Please all Freepers...SIGN THIS PETITION!

eeevil conservative asked me to post this link so that we can send a message to Congress.

JUST SAY NO!

Thanks!

1 posted on 02/05/2009 2:29:19 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: STARWISE

Just pinging you to ask if you would ping your list to this thread. It would be appreciated.

Thanks!


2 posted on 02/05/2009 2:36:15 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

Harry Reid is saying it’s in the bag and they don’t need to make any changes... that he has the votes to pass it.


3 posted on 02/05/2009 2:46:29 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: penelopesire

Thanks, sent it to everyone I know.


4 posted on 02/05/2009 2:47:57 PM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: Edizzl79

Thanks! Whether this bill passes or not..we still need to let our voices be heard!


5 posted on 02/05/2009 2:50:13 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Arizona Carolyn

That sounds pretty discouraging, but let’s still let our voices be heard loud and clear. The poll numbers on this pork bill are tanking..that’s why the dems want to hurry this rip off bill through a vote!


6 posted on 02/05/2009 2:53:09 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire; trooprally; Veeram; rlmorel; Pyro7480; kristinn; Syncro; Jim Robinson; casino66; ...

PING!!!

Please spread the word!!

THANKS FOLKS!!

THANK YOU— PENELP!!! YOU ROCK!!


7 posted on 02/05/2009 3:17:14 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; Kevmo; gunnyg; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...

~~~Porkulus Petition ........... PING!


8 posted on 02/05/2009 3:24:39 PM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Harry Reid is saying it’s in the bag and they don’t need to make any changes... that he has the votes to pass it.

Sure, that's true.

It's a tactic to get no one to complain about it, it's a done deal.

But some Republicans are still trying to get them to discuss about 200 amendments and if we keep pushing the liberals will know we won't take this lying down.

9 posted on 02/05/2009 3:27:43 PM PST by Syncro (Ti Ming -- Use Librally)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks Starwise!


10 posted on 02/05/2009 3:30:07 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: STARWISE

Thanks, STARWISE. I already signed it, but thanks for the “ping”. I would also like to encourage folks to keep calling, faxing and e-mailing their senators.


11 posted on 02/05/2009 3:31:37 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: penelopesire; STARWISE

Consider it done! Thanks!


12 posted on 02/05/2009 3:40:03 PM PST by Faith
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To: penelopesire; pandoraou812

Done.


13 posted on 02/05/2009 3:51:50 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: CaribouCrossing

Thanks, STARWISE. I already signed it, but thanks for the “ping”. I would also like to encourage folks to keep calling, faxing and e-mailing their senators.
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Ditto on that sentiment!! The phones were VERY busy today!! Let your Senators as well as the waffling Republicans know what you think. Call, fax and e-mail Sen. Snowe, Collins, Voinovich and Specter who are caving to pressure. Tell them you want a NO vote.

Olympia Snowe
Washington, D.C. Office:
154 Russell Senate Office Building,
District of Columbia 20510-1903
Phone: (202) 224-5344
Fax: (202) 224-1946

George Voinivich
Washington, D.C. Office:
524 Hart Senate Office Building,
District of Columbia 20510-3504
Phone: (202) 224-3353
Fax: (202) 228-1382

Susan Collins
Washington, D.C. Office:
413 Dirksen Senate Office Building,
District of Columbia 20510-1904
Phone: (202) 224-2523
Fax: (202) 224-2693

Arlen Specter
Washington, D.C. Office:
711 Hart Senate Office Building,
District of Columbia 20510-3802
Phone: (202) 224-4254
Fax: (202) 228-1229


14 posted on 02/05/2009 3:55:27 PM PST by montesquiue
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To: Syncro; Brad's Gramma; gubamyster; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; ...

It’s a done deal like calling an election at HIGH NOON... it’s a WISH and a psychological trick.


Everyone, please BURN UP SOME PHONE LINES, don’t read or write anything more until YOU pick up the phone yourself.

The Four Republican Senators Open to Working With Obama (URGE THEIR STAFF TO STAND STRONG—pray for ALL in office)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2179133/posts
Susan Collins (ME), George Voinovich (OH), Arlen Specter (PA), and Olympia Snowe (ME).


Contacting the Congress is a very up-to-date database of congressional contact information for the 111th Congress. As of February 04, 2009 there are 534 email addresses (of which 518 are Web-based email homepages), and 535 WWW homepages known for the 541 members of the 111th Congress. Traditional ground mail addresses are available for all current members of Congress.
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/


This is the U.S. National Sovereignty ping list.

This is a low-volume list reserved for urgent/important pings.

On/off the list—FREEPmail me privately.


15 posted on 02/05/2009 3:57:16 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
  MSNBC.com

In stimulus bills, earmarks by any other name
ProPublica: Despite Obama's vow, package has perks for special interests
EXCLUSIVE
By Michael Grabell and Christopher Weaver
ProPublica
updated 10:29 a.m. ET Feb. 5, 2009

Lumped together, the House and Senate versions of the economic stimulus plan number some 1,400 pages, roughly the equivalent of the complete works of Shakespeare.

And some of the language is just as artfully crafted.

The package includes an insurance exemption — but only for companies that work on recreational boats longer than 65 feet. Another provision would lift a Medicare regulation affecting only three long-term care hospitals in the country.  There’s also language requiring the Transportation Security Administration to buy 100,000 uniforms from U.S. apparel makers.

In theory and publicity, the package is “earmark free.” But it contains dozens of narrowly defined programs that send money to specific areas or cater to special interests, despite President Barack Obama’s pledge to pass “an economic recovery plan that is free from earmarks and pet projects.”

Some — like the yacht workers’ exemption — would take little or nothing from taxpayer pockets. Others, like $3 billion in extra transit money added by the House, are handing ammo to critics who say the stimulus plan, now at about $900 billion in the Senate, has morphed into a Christmas list.

As part of the ShovelWatch project with WNYC radio in New York, ProPublica plumbed the depths of the stimulus bills looking to see how closely Congress is coming to Obama’s stated goal.

What is an ‘earmark’?
In part, the answer hinges on the definition of an “earmark.” Democrats insist they are nowhere in the plan; Republicans see “pork” everywhere. So we cribbed from criteria Congress laid out in a 2007 reform bill: language that aims spending at specific programs, states or localities, often at a member’s request.

Specific location? The Senate stimulus contains $50 million for habitat restoration and other water needs in the San Francisco Bay Area. There is another $62 million for military projects in Guam.

Specific industry? The House bill includes an amendment authored by Democratic Rep. Bruce Braley setting aside $500 million for biofuel makers, which he says, would bring jobs home to Iowa.

Specific program? There’s $198 million to compensate Filipino World War II veterans for their service. Most don’t live in the United States.

In a speech about the stimulus last month, Obama acknowledged that there often are valid  arguments for earmarks. At the same time, he called for restraint.

“Many of these projects are worthy and benefit local communities,” he said. “But this emergency legislation must not be the vehicle for those aspirations. This must be a time when leaders in both parties put the urgent needs of our nation above our own narrow interests.”

Obama continued to defend the legislation in a round of network interviews this week, telling NBC's Matt Lauer, “I am confident that by the time we actually have the final package on the floor that we are going to see substantial support. And people are going to say this is a serious effort. It has no earmarks. We’re going to be trimming up things that are not relevant to putting people back to work right now."

By far the bulk of the stimulus spending will be doled out through agencies like the Department of Transportation or programs such as Medicaid and food stamps that use existing formulas. That brings some accountability to road and bridge projects, for example, which typically go through a state process that determines which should get funded first. Transit money, too, is allotted by formula.

But when the sausage-making gets going on Capitol Hill, there’s always an end around.

Two House Democrats with a hunger for transit money — Rep. Jerrold Nadler of New York and Ed Perlmutter of Colorado — helped secure the extra $3 billion, pushing total transit funding in the House bill to $12 billion. Nadler touted it as a boon for commuters that would help New York City’s financially strapped subway system jumpstart work on a huge backlog of projects.

‘Not the Flamingo Hall of Fame’
Supporters of the narrowly defined projects say criticism is unwarranted. Their projects not only save or create jobs, they say, but in some cases correct oversights in previous legislation and add little to nothing to the overall cost of the stimulus package.

No doubt the yacht repair yards in Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s district in South Florida would benefit from the insurance exemption for work on boats longer than 65 feet.

The current law governing such insurance was intended to draw a distinction between workers on recreational boats and workers on big ships, who faced greater dangers and were required to carry additional longshoremen’s insurance, she explained in offering the provision.

But since then, yachts have gotten longer and owners have skipped to Mexico, Canada or Caribbean for cheaper repairs, creating a hardship for small businesses in South Florida, Seattle, Massachusetts and the Great Lakes, said Wasserman Schultz’s spokesman, Jonathan Beeton.

“It’s not the Flamingo Hall of Fame,” he said. “This is if you are a carpet installer … in order for you to go in as a small business owner and step foot on that boat, you have to have longshoreman insurance for your employees. ... The economic impact on these areas is pretty high.”

Rep. Larry Kissell made a similar argument when he offered the amendment for TSA uniforms, which are made of fabric produced in North Carolina but sewn together in Mexico and Honduras. Working in the local textile industry for 27 years, Kissell witnessed plant closings as more and more jobs fled overseas.

“The immediate impact would be to bring the assembly work to the U.S., which would create jobs,” said Lloyd Wood of the American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition, an industry group that has lobbied for the provision for five years.

But there is also political bonus for Kissell, a freshman congressman. If the amendment survives, he and Democrats would gain an early victory that Kissell’s Republican predecessor couldn’t secure.

Righting wrongs, rewarding service
The provision involving the Medicare regulation for three hospitals demonstrates how easily complexity gets lost in the political wrangling.

The amendment was inserted by Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., in the House Ways and Means Committee. The three hospitals that would benefit are in or near the districts of Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D., and Rep. John Larson, D-Conn., who sit on the Ways and Means Committee. The president of the Connecticut hospital is also president of the National Association of Long Term Hospitals, which has lobbied for the change.

“Would this be considered an earmark?” Rep. Wally Herger, R-Calif., pressed Stark at the committee meeting.

“We get information from members about hospitals in their district that are affected,” answered Stark, chairman of the health subcommittee. “We try and always have tried, as far as I can remember the last 25 years, to accommodate the requirements of hospitals in members’ district in so far that we think it’s good policy.”

“Whether you could ascribe an earmark to the member who brought it to us or not,” said Stark, “is up to the person who wants to raise the issue or not.”

Larson spokeswoman Emily Barocas said the measure fixes a mistake in a previous law that unintentionally excluded the three hospitals. The Stark amendment means additional Medicare funding for the hospitals. Association officials and aides to Pomeroy did not return calls.

Stark has also drawn scrutiny for another provision, first reported by The Associated Press, that would reverse a $134 million Medicare cut for hospice care. The National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization has fought against the measure, spending $1 million last year and employing 10 outside lobbyists, according to public records compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

One of those lobbyists was once a top aide to Stark and the Ways and Means Committee. The hospice organization confirmed that he worked on the Medicare provision for the bill. Stark's office said neither the congressman nor the committee had contact with the former aide and lobbyist.

“I don’t think there was undue influence — this provision has been vetted and studied,” said Jon Keyserling, the organization’s vice president for public policy. “Someone has to step up and speak for patients and families who are going to be denied services if this rate cut was allowed to go into effect.”

Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, hasn’t said that Filipino veterans’ compensation would stimulate the economy. The matter is more one of fulfilling a moral obligation made generations ago.

In 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt enlisted about 470,000 residents of the Philippines, at the time a U.S. commonwealth, to fight the Japanese. Many were captured or killed in the war, including in the Bataan Death March. The president promised compensation, but it was revoked by Congress in 1946.

Since then, Filipino veterans — now aged 85 to 98 — have fought to restore it, and Inouye has been a big supporter. “The nation made a solemn promise,” he said. “This is not the America I know and love.” Under the Senate bill, Filipino vets who are U.S. citizens would get $15,000; noncitizens would get $9,000.

Washington’s new parlor game
Fear of having their handiwork labeled an “earmark” has led some drafters to some awkward circumlocutions. Take this wording from the section of the Senate Appropriations Committee report on $2 billion for the Army Corps of Engineers:

“The committee has granted extraordinary discretion to the administration in determining how the funds provided in this act should be expended. … The committee is not recommending funding for specific projects in this act. However, the committee has had extensive consultation with the Corps concerning how the funds provided under this heading could be used in broad program categories.”

Such cryptic language has spawned a Washington parlor game: What do the appropriators  actually mean?  For example, the House bill gives a priority for higher education repairs to institutions “affected by a Gulf hurricane disaster.” Is that Tulane University in New Orleans? The University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston?

Clever drafting could give Democrats enough cover to say they met the president’s goal, said Keith Ashdown of the watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense.

“I think it’s been watered down enough that it gives the administration deniability that they can meet that pledge,” said Ashdown, whose group advocates for better disclosure of congressional earmarks. “They can say there are no earmarks in this legislation, but when you look at the details of each provision, the reality becomes murkier.”

The Democrats have backed down on some provisions. Amid criticism, House Democrats pulled $200 million for Washington’s National Mall and a provision extending Medicaid to family planning. Senate Democrats dropped $75 million for programs to help smokers quit and $400 million to fight HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.

Senators also voted to kill a tax break that would have allowed Hollywood studios to write off production costs for movies and TV shows.

The tempest over earmarking has made for some ironic moments. Take the case of Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska, who put out a statement bashing Democrats for projects he deemed questionable.

“I have never been shy about seeking projects in those bills for my constituents,” Young exclaimed, “but we have specific vehicles for that and this bill is not it.”

Young, of course, is the former chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. In 2005, he teamed up with former Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens to snag one of the most infamous earmarks ever:  $223 million for a project that became known as the “Bridge to Nowhere."


16 posted on 02/05/2009 4:10:26 PM PST by XR7
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I have done.


17 posted on 02/05/2009 4:21:22 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; eeevil conservative; StarCMC; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; ...
D.C. Chapter Master Ping List,, et al

After you sign the NO Stimulus Petition lets make some calls. Post nos. 14, 15 & 16 have some good info.

If you have a ping list, now is the time to ping it.

18 posted on 02/05/2009 4:42:29 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: trooprally

I can imagine that Chrissy’s tingle has turned into a full fledged loin ache....

and it is not viagra...


19 posted on 02/05/2009 4:45:07 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: penelopesire

http://www.americansolutions.com/Blog/Read.aspx?guid=dcda8b24-c6db-4d27-a4f8-fbe3b5fb740b


20 posted on 02/05/2009 4:55:21 PM PST by Vision ("Test everything. Hold on to the Good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21)
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