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Windows 7 Demand Clogs Beta Download Servers
Internetnews.com ^ | January 9, 2009 | Stuart J. Johnston

Posted on 01/10/2009 6:29:49 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts

Microsoft servers got quite a workout on Friday from potential testers as the company opened public beta testing of Windows 7 to a broad audience– so much so, in fact, that the company decided to delay the beta's opening until it can bring more servers online.

"Due to very heavy traffic we’re seeing as a result of interest in the Windows 7 Beta, we are adding some additional infrastructure support to the Microsoft.com properties before we post the public beta," said a posting on The Windows Blog at around 3 p.m. Pacific Time on Friday afternoon. It included a promise to get the beta servers up and running as quickly as possible.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer announced on Wednesday night that beta test of Windows 7 would be broadened to the general public on Friday. It was made available to MSDN and TechNet Plus subscribers on Wednesday.

Additionally, Microsoft (NASDAQ: MSFT) executives have planned a public beta with at least 2.5 million participants. However, apparently they didn't expect everyone to try to get in at once.

"It's starting to look almost like a land rush," said Michael Cherry, operating system analyst at Directions on Microsoft, told InternetNews.com.

As to where to look when the broad public beta is open for business, at press time, a Microsoft spokesperson said the company is referring users to The Windows Blog.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: beta; bluehighwayisatroll; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; microsoftfanboys; redangusisatroll; windows; windows7
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To: Blue Highway

The HD in there now is only formatted for one partition. I tried putting another one in but keep running into the NTLDR problem with my install discs. Seems I’m at a dead end for now, but I’ll try more tomorrow.


81 posted on 01/10/2009 8:45:37 PM PST by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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To: perfect stranger

One good thing I noticed is for the first time the OS shows and uses all 4gb of memory in the Dell. Seems to scroll through Free Republic a lot faster.


82 posted on 01/10/2009 10:30:55 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway
That's suprising. I look forward to trying more in the AM when I wake up. In the meantime I enjoy the pie.

Pork shoulder cooked slow with onion, jalapeno, rosemary and the juice from 2 tangerines from the neighbor's tree- topped with Beach Bistro garlic and brown butter mashers.

83 posted on 01/11/2009 12:08:17 AM PST by perfect stranger (Nobama)
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To: roamer_1; perfect stranger; Blue Highway
Well I was able to start to IOS download via the Softpedia link but twice now I've only received 300-400 mbytes of the file. Somebody is cutting me off either my ISP (ATT DSL) or Microsoft.

I'll probably wait till things calm down now. I read somewheres that you could install a fresh copy into a 2nd partition. Anyone know if that's true?

84 posted on 01/11/2009 5:39:40 AM PST by McGruff (Burris: "there was certainly no pay to play involved because I don't have no money.")
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To: McGruff

I did that. Installed onto a blank partition (D:drive). Works so far. I don’t like the idea I can’t turn the task bar and start menu into Windows Classic so they don’t have the same look/function as XP.


85 posted on 01/11/2009 7:37:24 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Swordmaker

Yes he can do all of those things, but why the pay the premium price for the Mac hardware if you are going to run Windows software? You can buy much more computer for your money if you go PC from the get go. We paid about a $600 premium over a similar all-in-one from Gateway, Dell or HP. That makes no economic sense. We made the mistake of buying into the overblown hype about Mac superiority only to find out that sadly that is exactly what it is hype. With Windows you get the blue screen of death with Mac you get the spinning beach ball of death. The difference is that with a PC you can go Con-Alt-Del, get to task manager and fix it, with Mac you call Apple support.

I don’t care what computer someone buys. Buy what you like and what fits your needs. What gripes me is this totally unwarranted “we are so superior to everyone else in the world” attitude that Mac users have. It is almost cultish in nature and frankly kind of creepy. A computer is a tool and nothing else. PC’s have their good points and I guess so do Macs, but for my money I will stick with what works for me. And yes I did expect the Mac to work like a PC, just as I expect a Ford to drive like a Chevy or Sony TV to work like a Panasonic. Minor differences in layout are one thing, but you shouldn’t have to learn a “new paradigm” when you switch computer brands.


86 posted on 01/11/2009 7:46:08 AM PST by redangus
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To: redangus

great answer redangus, I can’t wait to see cult leader Swordmaker and his disciples like anti-crat and the host of others that will be here shortly to brainwash you that Apple is the best and They can do everything you can do. They will never acknowledge their “superiority complex” is what turnes off the non Apple people, and the smug references which I went on at length before about them having a “Genius” Bar when the so called dopes working there were no more a “genius” than the typical deadbeat working at Mc Donalds that has trouble asking you if you want coke with your fries. Once you get on the point about price they are delusional. They will still somehoew state that $3000 iMac is a better deal than a $1000 Dell. I don’t know what these people are smoking or what hole they crawled out of but they do not seem of this world.


87 posted on 01/11/2009 7:55:55 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway
That's good news about the ability to install to a second partition. I assume it will allow for dual boot?

I stumbled across a link from BetaNews http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_7/1231525922/1 that I'm trying to download. So far I'm over 1 GB without disconnecting.

The inability to switch GUI modes back to Classic XP is a mistake in my opinion. I'm forcing myself to get use to the Vista GUI but there are a lot of people that don't want to change. Can't say that I blame them.

88 posted on 01/11/2009 8:43:21 AM PST by McGruff (Burris: "there was certainly no pay to play involved because I don't have no money.")
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To: McGruff

Yes I had XP Pro on my C partition and when I installed Win 7 on the D partition it created the dual boot menu and it works as expected. No suprises. I guess like all other dual boot new installs (if you start from a blank hard drive) you have to have the oldest OS installed first and then consecutive OSes installed later on the following drive letters. Good luck.


89 posted on 01/11/2009 10:40:16 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway; All
Posting this from my Windows 7 installation. Installation went very smooth. Just be sure to check the advanced installation not the default upgrade option. Dual booting woot.

I didn't print out the registration key but saved it to a file. Couldn't bring up that file when asked for key. It let me continue though. I'll figure out how to enter that later.

GUI isn't too strange so far. Will post more later.

90 posted on 01/11/2009 11:41:26 AM PST by McGruff (Burris: "there was certainly no pay to play involved because I don't have no money.")
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To: McGruff

I’m not a big fan of the Start Menu layout. Still trying to get it to resemble the XP Classic look. Same with every menu to appear in DETAILS instead of the goofy icons. I went through Folder Options to set all folders to Details but it’s not applying to COMPUTER folder.


91 posted on 01/11/2009 11:46:23 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

Also found my first bug. I usually set my recycle bin to basically not keep anything in there and when I delete something I don’t want the confirmation display asking me if I really really want to delete it. Once I hit delete I want it gone and don’t want to have to empty out the recycle bin either. Well the options are all there to make it possible, but it is not keeping the recycle bin empty. I may have to reboot to see if maybe the settings will apply only after a reboot?


92 posted on 01/11/2009 11:51:52 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: McGruff
[...] download via the Softpedia link but twice now I've only received 300-400 mbytes of the file. Somebody is cutting me off [...].

Sorry for that- Mine steamed right on in... I see you got sorted from your posts downthread...

I wouldn't worry that "classic" view isn't there yet- It's a beta after all...

93 posted on 01/11/2009 12:14:29 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: TheZMan
Anyone have the short-quick feature list for Windows 7?

Some of these were supposed to be Vista features, but were dropped before release, so we'll see what happens in the final release.

94 posted on 01/11/2009 12:58:15 PM PST by dan1123 (Liberals sell it as "speech which is hateful" but it's really "speech I hate".)
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To: redangus
And yes I did expect the Mac to work like a PC, just as I expect a Ford to drive like a Chevy or Sony TV to work like a Panasonic. Minor differences in layout are one thing, but you shouldn’t have to learn a “new paradigm” when you switch computer brands.

As I said, you expected it to be exactly the same as a Windows PC... and did not bother to learn the differences. There are greater differences than just "minor differences in layout." You did not merely switch computer brands, you switched operating systems and then got upset that the OS was not the same as what you were used to. Now that you have installed Windows on your Mac, you have essentially switch brands.

The fact of the matter is, redangus, that the vast majority of Mac users are ALSO Windows users either in the past or daily at work... and they have made an informed decision to switch for their personal use. You, on the other hand, made assumptions that your Mac should be a Windows PC.

With Windows you get the blue screen of death with Mac you get the spinning beach ball of death. The difference is that with a PC you can go Con-Alt-Del, get to task manager and fix it, with Mac you call Apple support.

That comment shows that you really don't know what you were doing and expected it to be a Windows machine. You get the same functionality with the Mac with the Activity Monitor... except it gives you MORE.

95 posted on 01/11/2009 2:33:31 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: redangus
We paid about a $600 premium over a similar all-in-one from Gateway, Dell or HP.

You did? What did you buy?

Apple iMac— $1199

HP All-In-One— $1199

Gateway One ZX-190— $1309.99

Dell XPS-ONE— $899.00

I don't see a $600 differential in these prices... and these are the starting prices, not the prices of a built to match the hardware in an iMac.

96 posted on 01/11/2009 3:00:07 PM PST by Swordmaker ($1303)
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To: Swordmaker

We paid $1300 at Best Buys for our iMac and it didn’t have as big a hard drive or memory as the others, had a horrid keyboard which we have found is hard to replace because IT’S A MAC which limits your options again an Apple trait. It also didn’t have the touch screen like the HP and couldn’t be upgraded if so desired like the others.


97 posted on 01/11/2009 7:44:19 PM PST by redangus
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To: Swordmaker

“You, on the other hand, made assumptions that your Mac should be a Windows PC.”

And thanks to partitioning now it is, though at a premium cost to what a native PC of similar specs would have been.

I am not going to continue this argument with you swordmaker. Your not going to change my opinion and I don’t intend to try to change yours. You are obviously a Mac person and if that is what you like then that is fine with me. Just lose the attitude. I just think people have to right to know that Macs are not some kind of celestial instrument sent from heaven to save humanity from Windows. Mac are just tools like a PC with just as many problems and shortcomings.


98 posted on 01/11/2009 7:51:21 PM PST by redangus
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To: redangus; antiRepublicrat; Spktyr; HAL9000; XeniaSt
We paid $1300 at Best Buys for our iMac and it didn’t have as big a hard drive or memory as the others, had a horrid keyboard which we have found is hard to replace because IT’S A MAC which limits your options again an Apple trait. It also didn’t have the touch screen like the HP and couldn’t be upgraded if so desired like the others.

You can plug in ANY USB keyboard. You bought your iMac sometime in 2007 because you were already complaining about how it was gathering dust in January of 2008... but here you are knocking it by comparing it to an HP that wasn't even on the market until June 10, 2008. When you bought your iMac, it was LESS expensive than the competing All-in-one computers... I know because I did cost comparisons for them at that time.

You never bothered to put the effort, or the couple of weeks investment of time, into learning about the Mac either before you bought it or afterwards. As you said earlier, you think that an Apple Mac is just another "brand" of computer that should not require its owner to do anything different from what he has been doing... and that's obviously what you wanted and expected. In other words, you wanted another Windows computer... with all of its foibles and problems. If you live near one of the 250 Apple Stores, they offer free classes you can take that will quickly bring you up to speed.

Your not going to change my opinion and I don’t intend to try to change yours. You are obviously a Mac person and if that is what you like then that is fine with me. Just lose the attitude. I just think people have to right to know that Macs are not some kind of celestial instrument sent from heaven to save humanity from Windows.

I just had a 79 year old woman who has been using, and cursing at Windows for the last 15 years, in her business. She switched to a Mac. Every week she calls me to ask a few questions and to tell me how much easier it is to use and how much fun she is having with her Mac. If she could learn the differences, certainly you could have. You just did not want to.

You are right. I won't change back to Windows. I know too much about them and spend too much time making them work to want to do that at home. I however, think that your experience is very atypical and will respond when you post as though these are the normal results from switching to a Mac because your experience runs completely counter to the dozens of people I have helped switch to Macs. If you ask the majority of Mac users on FR, you will find that yours are definitely not typical. The keyboard aside, your complaints boil down to: It's not Windows.

And thanks to partitioning now it is, though at a premium cost to what a native PC of similar specs would have been.

Red, I suggest you sell your iMac and go buy that touch screen HP you think is better. You'll be happier.

99 posted on 01/11/2009 11:30:17 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker; redangus

The keyboard complaint is specious; I have a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse combo hooked up to my G5. It was originally sold as being for “Windows only,” but the Mac automatically recognized it and used it.

This has been the case with all Macs since the first USB-only iMac came out back in 1998.

Anyone who says that non-Apple USB keyboards won’t work with a Mac is lying.


100 posted on 01/12/2009 12:19:00 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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