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Radiocarbon dates indicate early Irish were just visiting
Times of London ^ | Friday, January 9, 2009 | Norman Hammond

Posted on 01/08/2009 8:06:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Ireland's first farmers settled the island later than some sites from Ulster have long suggested, but did so in a short period which may also have seen parallel migration into western England and Scotland. Radiocarbon dates indicate that sites from Co Kerry in the South West to Co Derry in Northern Ireland were all settled within the century after 3700BC. The immigrants built rectangular timber houses up to a hundred square metres in area, cultivated cereals such as wheat and barley, used flint tools and made plain pottery bowls... They were not the first people in Ireland: Mesolithic fishers and gatherers lived in Kerry and Waterford, keeping cattle, and many years ago the site of Ballynagilly in Ulster yielded dates around 4000BC associated with what seems to have been a cattle-keeping settlement. Even earlier palaeolithic hunters may also have lived on the island... Many of the radiocarbon dates obtained using older technology are not of "gold standard," McSparron claims; only those run using AMS (accelerator mass spectrometry), from short-lived plant species such as nuts rather than long-lived timbers... data from peat bogs which suggest that land clearance did not begin until after 3850BC. Sites of almost exactly the same age as the Irish ones are known from Llandegai in northwest Wales and from Lismore Fields in the West Midlands, and coeval structures are known from Claish and Balbridie in northern Scotland... Why these houses ceased to be built after around 3600BC is a mystery, but possibly population growth led to the rise of larger settlements, and even to defended ones as competition for the best land developed. A palisaded hamlet at Thornhill, Co Derry, may be an example of this, while in England Neolithic hilltop settlements such as Crickley Hill in the Cotswolds have been known for decades...

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Radiocarbon dates indicate early Irish were just visiting

1 posted on 01/08/2009 8:06:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/08/2009 8:07:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let me know if they find the spot where Conan battled the Picts.


3 posted on 01/08/2009 8:34:28 PM PST by Uriah_lost (Is there no balm in Gilead?....)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, but when did they make the whiskey?


4 posted on 01/08/2009 8:40:10 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: SunkenCiv

But the whiskey was so good they decided to stay.


5 posted on 01/08/2009 8:40:19 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: SunkenCiv
only those run using AMS (accelerator mass spectrometry), from short-lived plant species such as nuts rather than long-lived timbers...

Sample selection is extremely critical for obtaining accurate radiocarbon dates!

6 posted on 01/08/2009 8:59:21 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: ReneeLynn; Blind Eye Jones

That’s just terrible, what a reprehensible stereotype. Just for that, a bunch of Irish drunks are coming over to your houses. They’ll get in an argument about what they should do, then pass out on your front stoops. That’ll teach ya.


7 posted on 01/08/2009 9:10:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Uriah_lost

That’s under water now. ;’)


8 posted on 01/08/2009 9:10:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ReneeLynn
Yes, but when did they make the whiskey?

That was a gift from the fairies and the leprechauns.

9 posted on 01/08/2009 9:12:53 PM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: Uriah_lost

You’ll find Conann, king of the Fomor, battling “The Nemedians”.

Close enough?...:)

http://www.jimfitzpatrick.ie/mythology/invasions.html

http://www.aislingmagazine.com/aislingmagazine/articles/TAM24/TheFive.html


10 posted on 01/08/2009 9:15:11 PM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.darkfiber.com/blackirish/


11 posted on 01/08/2009 9:15:52 PM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Desdemona

An old saying claims it was a gift from God;

“God gave the Irish whiskey so they would not rule the world. Then he gave them the potato famine so America would.”


12 posted on 01/08/2009 9:17:36 PM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Salamander
Ahh, and John Jameson came up with the best whiskey of the lot so that we would have alternatives to martinis in the winter.
13 posted on 01/08/2009 9:27:24 PM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s 19 degrees out there, they better bring some whiskey. ;)


14 posted on 01/08/2009 9:32:39 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: Salamander

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15 posted on 01/08/2009 9:43:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (First 2009 Profile update Tuesday, January 6, 2009___________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Desdemona

Just don’t bring up the subject of Drambuie....:))


16 posted on 01/08/2009 10:20:26 PM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Without Irish drunks, the world would not have Irish spelling.


17 posted on 01/09/2009 6:40:34 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Live your principles. Don't just type them here.)
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To: SunkenCiv

A hundred square meters is a McMansion.


18 posted on 01/10/2009 8:38:33 AM PST by wildbill
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To: SunkenCiv
Just for that, a bunch of Irish drunks are coming over to your houses. They’ll get in an argument about what they should do, then pass out on your front stoops.

Talk about coincidence, they apparently did that 5700 years ago in Ireland.

19 posted on 01/10/2009 8:41:37 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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