Posted on 01/08/2009 11:15:31 AM PST by GOP_Raider
We've reached the final game of the college football season. I know that we've had some arguments regarding who really should be the national champion (and due to my own bias I've tried to stay away from it). But anyway, somebody decided #'s 1 and 2 for this game a long time ago and here they are.
The BCS National Championship Game: Florida vs. Oklahoma (8:00 pm, FOX) The last two Heisman trophy winners take to the turf for the waterford crystal shaped football from Sears (or at least it used to be from Sears). Leading up to this game, we've heard about who really should be the top ranked team and I'll say this. One, possibly both of these two teams can end any argument tonight. We know the offensive playmakers by now. Tim Tebow. Sam Bradford. Jermaine Gresham. Lewis Murphy. Juaquin Iglesias. But will the defenses even matter tonight?
They came, they met, they conquered.
fixed.
Until the Pac-10 media steps up and challenges the recurring and persisting falsehoods directed at the Pac-10, they’ll continue to be left out. And it ain’t just USC, both Oregon State and Washington were screwed out of title games in the late 90’s.
It’s such a joke. The Pac-10 has won 11 of the past 18 games against the SEC, but the SEC gets away with denigrating the Pac-10 and the media allows it to stick. USC thoroughly decimated 4 consecutive SEC opponents over 4 years (Auburn twice and Arkansas twice), but the SEC continues to get away with downgrading USC’s credibility. The Pac-10 has the best conference record in BCS games, yet they get left out of borderline decisions year after year. Since the BCS began, the Pac-10 has the best overall conference record against other BCS opponents of any conference, yet they get more criticism than anyone. And then you add in that they are the only conference to consistently, up and down their conference, to schedule legitimate OOC games every season, and the whole thing becomes absurd.
USC has been the country’s best team in 4 of the past 6 seasons, maybe even 5 of the past 7. But Oklahoma keeps going to title games and losing, SEC teams get a free ride into the title game, and USC ends up ranked 2nd or 3rd.
Stellar Penn State????
2. The recurring criticism throughout the season was that SC was playing in a horribly bad Pac 10 conference and SC’s 11-1 regular season record was heavily discounted. Then the Pac 10 went 5-0 in the bowl season.
Now look at who they beat!
Only one meaningful victory. Over an over ranked PSU.
Take away the last USC win against cellar-dwellar Arkansas and please post the records for the last three years.
Cellar dweller? Arkansas made it to the SEC final that year, meatball. And USC put up 50 and then 70 on them in consecutive years. Got it? SEC finalist, routed. Auburn was pre-season number one when USC travelled to Auburn and shut them out 23-0 with a young club. This past season, 2 games between the SEC and the Pac-10. In a battle of dwellers, the Pac-10 ‘dweller’ UCLA beat the SEC dweller Tennessee. And in the other game, one of your signature programs, another ‘top ten’ SEC program Georgia, was all out to beat Arizona State, who finished 8th in the Pac-10 this year. You want more? Last year, Cal routed Tennessee at Cal if I remember correctly. Typical SEC honk, no facts to back up anything, just propaganda.
“Cellar-dweller” Arkansas!!! They made it to the SEC final, numb nuts.
Not only that, but within the few games the SEC HAS won over the past 18 with the Pac, LSU needed Oregon State to miss THREE extra points, at LSU, to beat the Beavers in overtime a few years back, and then they needed two 4th quarter blocked kicks for touchdowns to come back against ASU, 35-31. Even your wins were shaky.
What’s amazing, but typical, is that this is all news to you and most others who pump the SEC.
Here is the last four years. I see that the pac-10 is on the lower side of the equation even with USC victories.
PAC Arkansas 17, USC 70
SEC LSU 35, Arizona State 31
PAC USC 50, Arkansas 14
SEC Washington State 14, Auburn 40
SEC Arizona 3, LSU 45
SEC California 18, Tennessee 35
PAC Tennessee 31, California 45
PAC UCLA 27, Tennessee 24
SEC Georgia 27, Arizona St 10
Over the last four years it is SEC 5, PAC 4. Four of the five SEC wins were blowouts! Two of the PAC wins were by USC. Put FL in this circle and it would be even more SEC.
USC is 1 and 1 in BCS championship games having lost the last one.
Florida is 2-0 in championship games.
Yeah, crop up a time frame where you can come out ahead by one game and then run that up the pole. Bottom line is, you had no idea that your league was losing to the Pac-10 schools more often than you were winning over the past 18 contests, and you were surprised when you actually looked it up. When the two leagues actually play, when propaganda doesn’t rule the day, you lose and the Pac-10 has won. But you’ll still run your mouths all next year. However you’ll eventually have to play an Oregon or a USC sometime in the next couple years, and they’ll tag your ass just like Utah skunked Alabama, yet another vastly overrated SEC team.
Only if half the FL team goes pro!
I chose the last four years as it is most representative of present programs. What happened 30 years ago is irrelevant as to today's conference powers.
My buddy the OU fan bet me a bottle of The Macallan.
I am looking forward to toasting the Gator victory with the first dram of that bottle.
Let's see your post on 'cropping up'...
Last year, Cal routed Tennessee at Cal if I remember correctly.
You left out that the year before Tennessee routed Cal!
“I chose the last four years as it is most representative of present programs.”
What a dumb statement. By what criteria, other than your purely biased subjectivity? Why not just this year, that is clearly the MOST representative of present programs. Why not just the past two? That is clearly more representative of PRESENT programs than four years ago. And even then, when you cherry-picked the time frame, the best you could come up with was a 5-4 edge, for that single time frame. With all the popping off you people do, how come the wins and losses on the field against the Pac-10 aren’t heavily weighted in your favor, much less 11 of the past 18 going the other direction? Where are your wins against this conference that you talk down all year, every year? You don’t beat them head to head, so what are you talking about?
Didn't Alabama beat USC in the Rose Bowl the last time they played?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.