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Loss of confidence results in change of submarine command
Tribune & Georgian (St. Marys, GA) ^ | 1/6/9 | Ellen Robinson

Posted on 01/03/2009 10:58:05 AM PST by SmithL

A loss of confidence has resulted in the temporary reassignment of a submarine's commanding officer at Naval Submarine Base, Kings Bay, Navy officials announced in a written statement on Monday.

Although there were no major incidents reported after Capt. Charles Hill's first patrol as the commanding officer of the USS West Virginia, he was temporarily reassigned to the office of Submarine Squadron 20.

According to the written statement by the Submarine Group 10 public affairs office, Hill was relieved from his position as commanding officer due to a loss of confidence relating to the command environment aboard the USS West Virginia.

Hill took command of the USS West Virginia's Gold crew in July and completed his first patrol as the vessel's commanding officer, said Lt. Rebecca Rebarich.

"There was no specific incident. It was a condition relating to the command climate that was brought before the commander of Submarine Squadron 16/20's attention after the first patrol that resulted in the commander's loss of confidence in Hill's ability," Rebarich said.

Former commanding officer of the USS Rhode Island Capt. Stephen Gillespie replaced Hill as commander of the USS West Virginia. Gillespie is currently the deputy for Training at Submarine Squadron 16/20.

The gold crew, which is experiencing this change in command, is at the homeport, Kings Bay, in training. The blue and gold crews alternate in taking the Trident submarines out on patrol.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: boomer; lossofconfidence; submarine; usnavy; usswestvirginia
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CAPT. CHARLES HILL was relieved from his position as commanding officer of the USS West Virginia due to a "loss of confidence" relating to the command environment aboard the boat during Hill's first patrol as commander.
1 posted on 01/03/2009 10:58:06 AM PST by SmithL
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; Dog Gone; ..
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More from The Navy Times: http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/01/navy_firedskipper_123008/

2 posted on 01/03/2009 11:04:49 AM PST by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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To: SmithL

career over....

I am betting that this is what you get with liberal education


3 posted on 01/03/2009 11:05:57 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: SmithL

This sounds odd, Whats the rest of the story. A boomer CO does not get relieved unless he has a real issue. You don’t (or at least did not) become a CO without being vetted pretty well before hand. Well I guess we are in a new age where vetting is a thing of the past heck our prez-ele was never vetted.


4 posted on 01/03/2009 11:05:59 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (X Submariner)
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To: jafojeffsurf

There has to be more to the story. And the captain’s career is over. What happened?


5 posted on 01/03/2009 11:14:36 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: jafojeffsurf
You don’t (or at least did not) become a CO without being vetted pretty well before hand.

That's what I used to think...until our XO, who was deemed unfit for command by three different COs, still got a boat (he had relatives higher up). That was the single most influential event which convinced me it was time to get out.

I have seen COs removed for bad crew morale...
6 posted on 01/03/2009 11:17:53 AM PST by rottndog (If the left understood and obeyed the 10th Commandment, maybe they would obey the 10th Amendment!)
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To: SmithL

Maybe the problem here was that the CO could not find the strawberries despite his best efforts.


7 posted on 01/03/2009 11:24:01 AM PST by Robwin
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To: SmithL
"There was no specific incident. It was a condition relating to the command climate that was brought before the commander of Submarine Squadron 16/20's attention after the first patrol that resulted in the commander's loss of confidence in Hill's ability," Rebarich said.

First and last patrol. Yep, there's more to this story. Someday we might even find out what that was.
8 posted on 01/03/2009 11:24:35 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: Robwin

Someone threw his potted palm tree overboard.


9 posted on 01/03/2009 11:26:38 AM PST by Check6
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To: SmithL; Doohickey
'loss of confidence" relating to the command environment aboard the boat'

Any scuttlebutt on what this means?

We had a eval officer on the plane who was tossed off the plane simply because he couldn't get along with the crew.
He flew a desk after that.
10 posted on 01/03/2009 11:30:22 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: SmithL

I see it’s an Ohio class vessel. What’s the main difference between an Ohio and LA class sub?


11 posted on 01/03/2009 11:43:35 AM PST by traderrob6
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LA class is a fast attack boat performing typical submarine duties. Carries torpedoes & cruise missiles.

Ohio class is a Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM or Boomer) boat and can pretty much make the world go away by itself.


12 posted on 01/03/2009 11:51:08 AM PST by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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To: rottndog
"I have seen COs removed for bad crew morale..."

Yup. It could be for something he didn't do...like letting a stressful situation persist without taking action.

13 posted on 01/03/2009 11:51:21 AM PST by blam
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To: BIGLOOK; Doohickey; esryle
I've seen "loss of confidence" mean sleeping with a subordinate, but since there is no NJP involved, I think we can rule that out. Failing a major inspection can also result in a "loss of confidence" action. I want to know more.
14 posted on 01/03/2009 11:57:57 AM PST by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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Our CO *and* CMC were removed for Loss of Confidence. It was actually called something else, but whatever it was called (forced retirement, reassignment), they were immediately relieved of duty upon inspection by the IG and the command morale was much improved.


15 posted on 01/03/2009 12:15:08 PM PST by Peanut Gallery ("...evolution doesn't fully explain the mystery of life" ~ George W. Bush)
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To: BIGLOOK

Failed ORSE, TRE, NTPI, NWAI or somesuch other inspection would be my guess.


16 posted on 01/03/2009 12:25:09 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: traderrob6

about 100 feet and 24 missile tubes.


17 posted on 01/03/2009 12:25:53 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: rottndog

I agree with you 100%...i saw it myself.


18 posted on 01/03/2009 12:31:16 PM PST by chasio649 (no longer sick of it all ...)
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To: SmithL

My guess is still something aft of frame 57 (or whichever frame separates the Ops compartment from the RC on a hotel). If not an outright ORSE failure, NRRO is most definately involved.

I had a skipper once that made Queeg look like the second coming of Mush Morton. But we always managed at least a SAT on ORSE and TRE is all was good.


19 posted on 01/03/2009 12:31:27 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: SmithL

Maybe he openly questioned Obama.


20 posted on 01/03/2009 12:33:39 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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