[decimon]

Collapsed lung ping.

[cc2k]

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As relentlessly bad as the news about global warming seems to be, with ice at the poles melting faster than scientists had predicted and world temperatures rising higher than expected,

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What planet is this news story from? We've just finished the coldest year so far this century. Global temperatures have been trending downward since they peaked in 1998.

[Tarpon]

Not to say anything about when they catch fire and give it all back.

Does everyone know about the Fire Mapper site where they chart the fires using MODIS satellite data worldwide on a rolling basis? The agricultural burning, especially in Africa is horrific. If only people knew ... I wonder why they don't?

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

GREENIE WATCH

Ping me if you find one I've missed.

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Relentlessly stupid press reporting ping

[Congressman Billybob]

Well now, the Chicago Tribune has just run an article with two obvious lies in the first sentence? The Earth's Arctic ice cover is now what it was in 1979. And the Earth's temperature has been going DOWN for three years.

No wonder the Tribune is going bankrupt. For any news media, when they go mentally bankrupt, financial backrupty will inevitably follow.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "The Non-Constitutional Crisis from Illinois"

The Declaration, the Constitution, parts of the Federalist, and America's Owner's Manual, here.

[Uncle Miltie]

To: hwitt@tribune.com

Dear Mr. Witt:

Your article today (”Canada’s Forests...”) states:

“with ice at the poles melting faster than scientists had predicted “

Yesterday the news was:

Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834

You may wish to update your template to account for the factual contradiction. The poles are not melting faster than predicted. They’re now growing in spite of the predictions.

Sincerely,

(Uncle Miltie)

[Hot Tabasco]

Bitter cold Canadian winters used to kill off much of the pine beetle population each year, naturally keeping it in check. But the milder winters of recent years have allowed the insect to proliferate.

Bullshit! Any and all sub freezing temps would have killed off most of the beetle pops. Its the Govt.'s strict regulations against logging that has caused their problem, not global warming and not the f'n beetles.........altho Yoko Ono could kill a tennis shoe.

[CIDKauf]

Oh my God...they can’t grow’em up....and for God’s sake don’t cut’em down! We are all going to die!

[ETL]

Climate Report Downgrades Ice Loss; Media Reports Opposite

"A new scientific report from the U.S. Climate Change Science Program has sharply reduced earlier estimates of global ice loss. The CCSP, which coordinates the efforts of 13 different federal climate agencies, has released updated figures estimating combined ice loss from Antarctica and Greenland at 48 cubic miles per year..." http://www.dailytech.com/Climate+Report+Downgrades+Ice+Loss+Media+Reports+Opposite/article13797.htm

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"48 cubic miles per year", if accurate, is nothing, considering the vastness of the world's oceans

[LiberConservative]

As relentlessly bad as the news about global warming seems to be,

Stop reading. Next thread ...

[jnsun]

Instead, some scientists argue for more extensive logging of the remaining commercial forests so that older forest stands, which are most vulnerable to insect infestations and have nearly reached their carbon-storage capacity, can be replanted with younger trees that will take in even more carbon during their growing years.

This, the last paragraph of the article.

Livestock and fowl are routinely slaughtered (harvested) in the earlier stages of their natural lifetimes because the growth curve is steepest then. That is, uptake and catabolism of nutrients per unit is most rapid then, thereby getting the most meat per unit feed.

I will bet anyone, and take on any botanist or journalist, that young forests, that is those which have been logged and in the stages of regeneration, are more efficient per unit of planet surface at assimilating Carbon Dioxide than any other forest management option. And I'll bet there are multiple studies that prove that.

In other words, if we logged all the forests totally, and used the product in long term carbon-stored products, such as building studs, while the logged areas are simultaneously proliferating with young growth, there would be higher net absorption of Carbon Dioxide, per unit planet surface per unit time, than if left alone in their so-called carbon storage reservoir.

I have seen this logical flaw over and over in the academic community, for example in ground water hydrology, where the dynamic is ignored in deference to the static data.

Similarly, not speaking as an expert, I'll bet the so-called climate models are so far off the dynamic pathways really extant across the comprehensive earth-solar interactive system, that they AIN'T worth the paper they're inked on.

[samtheman]

Let’s see, you cut down a bunch of trees and use the lumber to build a bunch of houses and furniture. That keeps all that carbon from returning to the atmosphere for a good long time (baring house-fires).

Then, you plant a bunch of new trees which suck up carbon out of the atmosphere at a much higher per-tree rate than old trees do; they need to, to create all that growing lumber.

Seems pretty simple to me.

But hey, what do I know? After all, I’m not a CLIMATOLOGIST!!!

[<1/1,000,000th%]

I can’t make any sense out of this article.

The trees have started giving off carbon because of a beetle infestation and warmer winters?

And reducing logging will fix this?

[denydenydeny]

are now pumping out more climate-changing carbon dioxide than they are sequestering.

The rest of the article completely contradicts this statement. Just a couple of paragraphs down

The forecast analysis prepared for the government ... indicates there is a probability that forests would constitute a net source of greenhouse gas emissions,"

So therefore, even if you accept the highly-politicized premise of this study as fact, it's not happening now and will not until some unspecified time in the future. But simply reporting that was deemed insufficiently scary.

Really, there is very little difference in form between our current media and the Volkischer Beobachter.