Posted on 11/26/2008 2:27:17 PM PST by sushiman
My left-wing radical friend insists we stole all this land from Mexico . Any history buffs out there in Freeperland who can supply some ammo for me ?
Mark
Thank you for all the terrific information.
We stole Texas fair and square when a number of citizens decided that they wanted to be independent of Mexico. Not all that long afterwards, certain southern States of the United States decided that they wanted to be independent of the northern States. This attempt at independence was soundly defeated in one of the bloodiest wars ever fought. As a result, the United States has little to say about attempts by viscious govenments to quash independence movements, e.g. Chechnya.
No problem I Love Texas History.
And really enjoy giving people information on it
When I retire or get laid off from my current employment I am going to either work at the Alamo, Presidio La Bahia or the State Capitol because I enjoy it so much.
You put all my info regarding Texas independance from an earlier reply in a paragraph berevity is a plus sometimes.
There weren't mexicans here they were spanish. Any mexicans were the result of spanish screwing the indians.
I agree entirley. The best thing that could ever have happened to the stupid Mexicans is to be one of only two countries in the world to border the United States. Do these idiots ever think of what it would be like today if we had decided to stay in Mexico City 150 years ago?
Mexico and its people are idiots if they think they’ve gained independance from Spain. The day they put one of their own in power and stop speaking a Eurpoean language they’ll be independant. Maybe. Maybe pigs will fly someday too.
Mexico and its people are idiots if they think they’ve gained independance from Spain. The day they put one of their own in power and stop speaking a Eurpoean language they’ll be independant. Maybe. Maybe pigs will fly someday too.
Mexico and its people are idiots if they think they’ve gained independance from Spain. The day they put one of their own in power and stop speaking a Eurpoean language they’ll be independant. Maybe. Maybe pigs will fly someday too.
Mexico never actually owned Arizona and N.M. except on paper. It was owned by the Apaches until Gen. Crooks campaigns in the early 1870’s and again in the 1880’s. No white people or mexicans would come into Apacheria without risking life and limb. That’s why when your drive across southern Arizona on Interstate 10, about 95% of the towns have english (not spanish) names (i.e., Lordsburg, Bowie, Wilcox, Tombstone, Benson).
You left wing friends are stupid. Texas was an independent nation in 1845 when it was annexed by joint resolution of Congress with the consent of Texicans.
The rest of it was ceded to the USA after Mexico started a war with the USA. Then there was the Gadsden Purchase as well.
Maybe, but the Mexicans stole their land from the Spanish, who originally stole it from the Indians. Tell your liberal idiot friends that when they sort out all the legal issus, come back and continue the discussion.
Of course, I'm from Arizona, where we are called "zonies."
There is a very good little book by a guy named Ruiz called "The Mexican War" that contains essays arguing both sides of the debate. I think Justin H. Smith's two-volume book, "The Annexation of Texas," is the gold standard, and his essay is in the book.
Thanks, I didn't know either of those names.
My grandfather born in Texas in 1879, used to talk about the “old Texians” meaning the original settlers. They were a tough bunch as pioneers usually are. I don't know where the word Texican came from, maybe Texans of Mexican descent.
Yes we did and we tried to steal Cuber from Fidel.
But ask your friend the far more important question about stealing peoples earnings to redistribute to those who work less and earn less.
We won them. Texas coluntarily joined the union.
Old history. Move on..
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