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Climate change 'doomed ancient Argyll site' [not about sweaters]
Times o' London ^ | November 7, 2008 | Scotland Staff

Posted on 11/10/2008 5:21:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv

An ancient Scots religious site predating the Pyramids and Stonehenge may have been abandoned because of climate change, according to archaeologists. Kilmartin Glen, in Argyll, has one of the most important concentrations of Neolithic and Bronze Age remains in Europe.

The glen -- a place of sacred rites from 3700BC or earlier -- contains at least 350 ancient monuments, including burial cairns, rock carvings and standing stones. The most spectacular of the remains is the fortress of the Scots at Dunadd, capital of the kingdom of Dalriada.

But archaeologists have identified a period of almost 1,000 years in which no monuments were erected and the population virtually disappeared. Alison Sheridan, head of early prehistory at the National Museum of Scotland, said: "Kilmartin Glen is one of the richest archaeological areas in Scotland, with a very high concentration of ritual sites." She added that the earliest activity dated back to hunter-gatherers about 4500BC, who left behind nothing more than a few pits, charcoal and some flint. It was a sacred landscape from at least as early as 3700BC until as late as 1100BC.

Dr Sheridan said: "It was a place for ceremony, for burying people, and observing the movements of the Sun and the Moon. We are not too certain what happened between 1100BC and 200BC. A hoard of swords has been found and a few artefacts buried as gifts to the gods in the late Bronze Age between 1000 and 750BC. But there are few structures and no settlements. When you start getting settlements again around 200BC they are in little fortified settlements ... It was no longer a happy valley, and people raided each other."

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
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Climate change doomed ancient Argyll site

1 posted on 11/10/2008 5:21:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 11/10/2008 5:21:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 11/10/2008 5:23:35 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: SunkenCiv

What?


4 posted on 11/10/2008 5:24:45 PM PST by Monkey Face (My mind is like a steel trap ~ rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: potlatch

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ping of interest


5 posted on 11/10/2008 5:31:39 PM PST by devolve ( ____95%_will_get_welfare_bribes____)
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To: SunkenCiv

Next we’ll figure out why the Mayans declined... along with dozens of other major, advanced ancient civilizations.

Seriously, when an academic speaks like this, I wonder how long before someone else makes their PhD by saying the direct opposite.


6 posted on 11/10/2008 5:39:26 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: SunkenCiv

Am I missing something? I read the entire article, and I didn’t see what kind of change doomed them. Was it too hot, too cold, too damp, too dry, or something else? Or was it like the Climate Change Crisis of this year and they faced cooling due to warming?


7 posted on 11/10/2008 5:39:44 PM PST by MathDoc (Support The Affirmative Action President as enthusiastically as the media supported Bush!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not a single mention of the climate history of that area in the article.

I HATE journalists.


8 posted on 11/10/2008 5:40:18 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Allegra; SunkenCiv

Argyll Ping.

9 posted on 11/10/2008 5:52:28 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: steelyourfaith

I’d planned to ping ya, but you were too fast, or maybe I was just too slow.


10 posted on 11/10/2008 5:55:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Monkey Face

I wonder if the same period climate change had an impact on Kashmir...


11 posted on 11/10/2008 5:55:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have a “pashmina” shawl...silk and cashmere...I suspect the shawl would have been much warmer, back then...with the climate change and all...
Goats would have been VERY busy trying to keep warm...


12 posted on 11/10/2008 5:59:53 PM PST by Monkey Face (My mind is like a steel trap ~ rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not sweaters, the people who sing, “Alley Oop.”


13 posted on 11/10/2008 6:03:53 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: devolve
Thank you devolve. Old picture I had, not a real good one when I enlarged it though.

 


14 posted on 11/10/2008 6:08:18 PM PST by potlatch
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To: nickcarraway

;’) The “Hollywood Argyles” — they must have been from Hollywood, they couldn’t spell.

This wiki-wacky page is pretty cool for a change:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley_Oop


15 posted on 11/10/2008 6:14:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

It probably rained that day. ;’)


16 posted on 11/10/2008 6:15:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Monkey Face

I’m not even gonna *ask* how they do that...


17 posted on 11/10/2008 6:15:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Me too, not!

The goats are randy from what I hear. I suspect millennia have not changed that...;o]

18 posted on 11/10/2008 6:19:05 PM PST by Monkey Face (My mind is like a steel trap ~ rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

They certainly got their scaremongering done in the title ‘climate changed doomed’...

The Scotsman was a little more responsible with their headline “Was climate change responsible for driving ancient Scots out of glen?”
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/Was-climate-change-responsible-for.4674280.jp

They also have a weather claim the other article did not have {guess ‘colder weather’ references are still banned in some press}

“They claim this period is marked by the start of a colder, wetter climate.”

two references...

“”Certainly, in some parts it seems to have become colder and wetter after about 1,200BC, and the people may have moved away.””

and more

“Neal Ascherson, visiting Professor at the Institute of Archaeology, University College London, said climate change brought an end to “this strange, idyllic period of late Neolithic and Bronze Age in this area”.

He said: “The weather, which was dryer and finer than it is now, seems to have come to an end around 1,000BC, when it began to change and the whole ecology began to alter. At the same time, culture changed.”


19 posted on 11/10/2008 6:23:02 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Thanks for that, especially the link.

Also some interesting remarks re: Hekla eruption, before it devolved into an AGW crevo type “debate”.


20 posted on 11/10/2008 6:44:37 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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