Posted on 10/24/2008 2:14:34 AM PDT by nobamanada
Take a look at this poll's internals showing McCain leading among the 18-24 demographic by 74%-22%. Are you joking? It's likely the opposite of this in favor of Obama. I'm all for being an optimist, but does anyone seriously believe this nonsense?
Not necessarily, but you embarassed yourself by not noticing the pollsters' own disclaimer of that number. If I'd posted this vanity, I'd ask the mod to pull the whole thread before anyone else saw it.
I saw the disclaimer. It means nothing. The entire premise of the poll is based on 18-24 voting for McCain 74-22. Regardless of how small the sample size is, don’t you think that that is an error? Come on, think objectively.
Trolls come in all colors, with countless disguises.
The main objective of the enemy is to demoralize us, take away all hope of winning. Much like the MSM is doing.
This poll has a history that cannot be disputed. Because it points out that this race is very close, you discount it’s credibility by saying that Obama has a crushing lead and that this poll is completely bogus.
If it crawls like a snake, hisses like a snake and bites like a snake, chances are, it’s a snake, no matter how you try to hide it.
That’s kind of you Andy.
Thank you.
Okay, so do you or do you not believe that McCain has a 74-22 lead among voters aged 18-24? There is nothing that can or would demoralize us but recognizing a total piece of garbage when we see one is helpful.
And yet you felt no need to mention the disclaimer in your original vanity, in fact, your whole premise is that the entire poll is BS based on one number among many which the pollsters themselves said HAD to be inaccurate.
Okay, NOW you're a troll.
The 25-34 age represents a large voting bloc.
The 18-24 does not.
A big error here does not make the poll total garbage especially when the pollster acknowledges the sampling error.
Don't you get it?
I concur that number is out of whack, but I also thinkg the over 65 crowd giving McCain just a 46-40 lead is out of whack. I suspect McCain will win that ground by 10-15, and they are reliable voters, unlike the young crowd.
Then what is your main point? Other than to spread despair among the Conservative base and keep them from going to the polls?
Where is your proof that the age group you discredit actually didn’t vote this way? It’s all and assumption on you part and you went out of your way to spread doubt without fact.
You are simply spreading discourse among this forum.
Good catch. I agree—the whole thing is bull. And 21% of conservatives going for Hussein Obambi? Yeah, when pigs fly.
There is no evidence for this. The asterisk and the note is evidence that your statement is false.
If I were you, I would zip my lip since you far too new to be taking such liberty.
The cats are on the prowl and you’re the prey.
I think. You forgot to add the salient statement "I think" idicating that it is opinion and not fact.
Everything I've heard or read says the early voting is huge, so it's important. But again, as with polls, who can possibly know this until it all shakes out? I seem to have heard this song before about early voting. Just like every four years I hear that THIS year the youth vote will come out in droves.
What's wrong with spreading discourse on a forum that's all about discourse?
"noun . 1. communication of thought by words; talk; conversation"
How about discord?
I’m kind of surprised by the age groups. 18-24 does make sense if you want to look at primarily college students, especially given Obama’s heavy recruiting of that age group. However, 25-44 is a large disparate group. I did find odd also the very very close numbers between parents and non-parents.
The problem with polls, is unless you ask everybody, your results are just as likely to be wrong as not.
I do think people should ignore polls and vote for whom they want to win. The obsession for prognostication is aggravating.
2. The most important point. IBD put an asterisk next to the numbers of the 18-24 age group and at the bottom of the poll details, they stated:
*Age 18-24 has much fluctuation due to small sample size
Now, don't you just feel foolish for posting this vanity, trying to dismiss the entire poll?
I remember it well. I remember seeing the long lines of African American voters in Ohio and thought “Uh-oh”. That was sweet that night when Begala and other Dems on CNN were beaming around 7pm eastern time or so. I am a bit more concerned this time because of ACORN and such but we’ll see. I hope somehow the Philly suburbs and Western PA pull through for us.
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