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Bloggers fear Obama using the draft as loophole for slavery/indoctrination [Vanity]

Posted on 10/22/2008 2:34:35 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

One blogging group in particular is the PUMAs.

What would happen if a power-hungry President were to play tricks with the draft? Could he use the draft as an excuse to:

1. Use draftees for slave labor [in the name of 'civil service']?

2. Put adults from age 18 to 41 into reeducation camps?

These are the kinds of things that PUMAs and other bloggers fear.

What first fueled this concern was Michelle Obama in a California speech:

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zone . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - uninvolved, uninformed."

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/25/michelle_obama_is_fair_game/

This is going to be our new First Lady? She's eager for her husband to force us to work [his way] and to be informed [his way]. It certainly sounds like slave labor and reeducation. What, pray tell, did her husband tell her? What other mechanism would a president Obama have than the draft itself? It sounds far fetched, but since Obama is hiding the details, what are we left to conjecture?

The clincher was Joe Biden's ominous warning:

1. A manufactured crisis within six months

2. Solutions that will cause Obama's poll ratings to plummet.

"Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

Here's a little more of what Biden said:

“There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision’,” Biden continued. “Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.”

That was the last straw for some PUMAs. They smell a rat. I can't blame them. Guess who said this?

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis..." -- David Rockefeller.

PUMAs are beginning to to take notice of a Obama comment on military service at Columbia: “If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.” They also noticed that Obama wants females included in the draft.

Then there was this: "I will call on a new generation of Americans to join our military.... I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots, and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their efforts connected to a common purpose."

Here is a list of blogs trying to make sense of it all:

http://blog.hillary-clintons-voice.com/is-a-military-draft-in-obamas-future-plans-2095 http://charts.technorati.com/posts/Uv1yJsfGAG3NVKDXqZ1VRzqxd7ENSSLIEBCbsWNRip0%3D http://lgstarr.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-plans-national-draft-for-all.html http://www.rense.com/general83/obm.htm http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2008/9/15/3885185.html http://www.victoriousopposition.com/index.php/site/comments/obama-would-draft-women-send-them-into-combat/ http://prorev.com/2008/09/obama-hints-return-of-draft.html

They fear Obama having the power of the draft. Should we?

Another website has put a lot of thought in this concern: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/1-service.htm

And guess what name pops up? Bill Ayers. Ayers shifted from terrorism to radical indoctrination of youth through education. [That's professor material in many of today's universities.]

Bill Ayers has been practicing how to radicalize students for a long time now. It's clearly a passion of his.

Maybe these dots don't connect, but more people all the time are beginning to think they do.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: antichrist; biden; civilwar2; draft; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Draft riots of 2009. I think such a scheme would bring him down.


121 posted on 10/23/2008 8:14:16 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Impy

“I think such a scheme would bring him down.”

If people are armed with warnings ahead of time. Otherwise, people would unite under the President in a crisis.


122 posted on 10/23/2008 8:19:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: theDentist
What flavor is that Kool-aid?

Ya know? Hitler told everyone exactly what he had in mind for Germany and the world.

Funny thing, that, people who took him at his word were ridiculed, right up to, and well beyond the point where it was Krystal (Nacht) clear that he was serious!

Have you ever actually read a history book?

123 posted on 10/23/2008 8:35:00 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: Crystal Cove

He said he wants a Civil corps as large as the military. His wife said he will put everyone to work. He said that if there’d be a draft, it would also be for women. Can you do the math?


124 posted on 10/23/2008 8:37:08 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: null and void

Sure have. Reading Reagan’s Diary, right now (it’s HUGE) and the biography of Neil Armstrong. I still think they’re are a bit too many folks who are either under or over medicated making these vast leaps of logic.


125 posted on 10/23/2008 8:40:33 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspell)
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To: bvw
But I thought you had great skills, like nunchuku skills?

I do. Jobs in my field are very few and far between in this country. At least now I'm starting to get a few interviews.

It's so nice when your own government's policies have both moved your job overseas where there are fewer taxes and regulations, and imported millions of low cost H1-B's to compete with you for the American jobs that have survived.

126 posted on 10/23/2008 8:42:13 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: theDentist

That reminds me, I need to take my meds.

I may be crazy, but at least I’m not STUPID. At least there are pills for crazy...


127 posted on 10/23/2008 8:45:10 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: null and void

I never insinuated anyone was stupid. Only that some seemed to be making huge assumptions, likely based on ODS.


128 posted on 10/23/2008 8:49:59 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspell)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
http://www.thoenebooks.com/blog.asp

This is the Thoene blog. They write Christian historical fiction and have at least two series dealing with the Jews during WWII and the founding of Israel. They have a series of articles on their blog about the similarities of how Hitler came into power and what is happening with Barak Obama. One article in particular, by Lori Kalner, is quite interesting.

129 posted on 10/23/2008 8:58:56 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I’m 25 and I don’t think people my age or younger would take kindly to a draft of any kind. I envision massive non-compliance.

I don’t think the kind of selflessness that used to exist does any longer. Young adults and their parents will flock to polls over that issue if Obama makes it one.


130 posted on 10/23/2008 9:04:06 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Republic

Remarkable isn’t it?

This country must dodge this bullet, and set up a young, vibrant conservative voice to carry on past McCain. This is a last gasp for the fellow travelers.


131 posted on 10/23/2008 9:04:16 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: null and void

I agree with those views of the facts and that sentiment as well.


132 posted on 10/23/2008 9:15:06 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

He doesn’t know much about human nature does he?


133 posted on 10/23/2008 9:19:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Impy
I’m 25 and I don’t think people my age or younger would take kindly to a draft of any kind. I envision massive non-compliance.

The hilarious thing is that the anarcho, Green Peace, Moveon.org and other far-lefty types now chanting "Obama, Obama..." would be the first to recoil in horror at the suggestion of mandatory government service.

134 posted on 10/23/2008 9:41:41 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: TigersEye
Only everything he learned from Mein Kampf, the Communest Manifesto, the Little Red Book, and most of Fascist/Communist/Socialist history.

As a people, are we really that different for Germans, Cubans, Ukrainians, or Cambodians?

135 posted on 10/23/2008 9:44:01 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: null and void
...different from...
136 posted on 10/23/2008 9:53:21 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: Crystal Cove
I don’t want that kind of thing here. I just don’t think it will happen.

Why won't it happen here? The soil? The water? Our air is different?

137 posted on 10/23/2008 10:39:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (The FBI needs to verify Obama 's a US citizen.)
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To: TigersEye
The hilarious thing is that the anarcho, Green Peace, Moveon.org and other far-lefty types now chanting "Obama, Obama..." would be the first to recoil in horror at the suggestion of mandatory government service.

Not if that mandatory government service promotes their twisted goals. Then they'll applaud it.

138 posted on 10/23/2008 10:54:25 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I doubt it. That doesn’t sound at all like young lefties to me.


139 posted on 10/23/2008 11:10:30 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: null and void
No doubt about it. It's a long read but this explains the German mentality and where it came from quite clearly.

Martin Luther Hitler's spiritual Ancestor

140 posted on 10/23/2008 11:14:08 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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