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Antievolutionists asked to review draft standards in Texas
The National Center for Science Education ^ | October 16, 2008

Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton

Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.

Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."

Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..

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TOPICS: Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution; id; scientism
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To: Mojave
Instantaneous action at a distance.

No information travels faster than the speed of light. If you disagree, be my guest to prove the theory of relativity wrong. That is how science progresses, through falsification : )

621 posted on 10/20/2008 12:02:52 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
That is how science progresses, through falsification : )

Now you've done it. LOL!

622 posted on 10/20/2008 12:04:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: LeGrande
No information travels faster than the speed of light.

Define what you mean by "information."

623 posted on 10/20/2008 12:05:29 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Now you've done it. LOL!

I am terrified, I tell you terrified, that one of these cretinists will prove Einstein wrong : )

624 posted on 10/20/2008 12:07:46 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Every theory is true until falsified? Fascinating.

No more need for independent verification or reproducible results.

625 posted on 10/20/2008 12:09:37 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: LeGrande
I am terrified

Of quantum tunneling? Just ignore it and you'll be safe,

626 posted on 10/20/2008 12:12:08 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Define what you mean by "information."

Tell you what. Lets use a textbook or reasonable facsimile to define our terms and clear up any ambiguities. Since I am too lazy to get out of my chair to walk over to my book shelf, how about we use The Non-Local Universe. My eyes are going bad and I can't read the authors name. Would their definition work for you since the book is dealing with Non-Local stuff?

Or you could just look it up in a dictionary or google it : )

627 posted on 10/20/2008 12:16:38 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
This one?

Zero Time Space: How Quantum Tunneling Broke the Light Speed Barrier

628 posted on 10/20/2008 12:21:58 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Of quantum tunneling? Just ignore it and you'll be safe,

No, of you disproving the Einsteins theory. I am waiting breathlessly in anticipation : )

Actually, I would like to see you do it : ) It would make the Universe a lot more interesting. I have faith in you or at least as much faith in you as I do in God : )

629 posted on 10/20/2008 12:22:58 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

You’ve reminded him that Creationism is not science.


630 posted on 10/20/2008 12:25:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Mojave
Every theory is true until falsified?

Like Creationism?

No more need for independent verification or reproducible results.

Like Creationism?

631 posted on 10/20/2008 12:27:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: LeGrande
No, of you disproving the Einsteins theory.

Which says what?

632 posted on 10/20/2008 12:27:41 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Like Creationism?

Why ask me?

633 posted on 10/20/2008 12:29:05 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Why not answer?

Is Creationism science?

Why?

634 posted on 10/20/2008 12:34:44 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Mojave
http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Time-Space-Quantum-Tunneling/dp/3527407359

Ahh, a book I haven't read. For some strange reason I doubt that he contradicts Einstein.

635 posted on 10/20/2008 12:35:51 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Is Creationism science?

I've never said it was.

You don't have any further defense for irreproducible results?

636 posted on 10/20/2008 12:37:59 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mojave
You’ve reminded him that Creationism is not science.

Yes and it seems to get his hackles up for some reason : ) Could it be that concepts like thinking for himself and experimenting might reveal truth not mentioned in the Bible or Heaven forbid expose the Bible to criticism?

637 posted on 10/20/2008 12:42:36 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
For some strange reason I doubt that he contradicts Einstein.

"Zero Time Space: How Quantum Tunneling Broke the Light Speed Barrier"

Uh huh.

BTW, it wasn't Einstein who claimed "the speed of light" was a disproof of God. That was just you.

Don't attribute that bovine excrement to Einstein.

638 posted on 10/20/2008 12:42:44 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Is Creationism science?

I've never said it was.

You never said it wasn't.

Is it?

639 posted on 10/20/2008 12:42:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Mojave
BTW, it wasn't Einstein who claimed "the speed of light" was a disproof of God. That was just you.

Don't attribute that bovine excrement to Einstein.

LOL Einstein didn't believe in your omnipotent God. Take your argument up with him.

640 posted on 10/20/2008 12:44:52 PM PDT by LeGrande
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