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Antievolutionists asked to review draft standards in Texas
The National Center for Science Education ^ | October 16, 2008

Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton

Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.

Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."

Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..

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TOPICS: Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution; id; scientism
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To: Mojave

601 posted on 10/20/2008 10:23:27 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

A visual representaion of self verification, like Fleischmann and Pons. And others.


602 posted on 10/20/2008 10:29:13 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

By your standard, is cold fusion reproducible?


603 posted on 10/20/2008 10:32:39 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

See post 598.


604 posted on 10/20/2008 10:38:39 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Did you decide that cold fusion could not be reproduced on March 23, 1989? Or did it take you a few days to decide?


605 posted on 10/20/2008 10:40:22 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You're the one who raised the irreproducible cold fusion experiment, not I.

Anything to take the focus off of the never reproduced e coli experiment you're plugging.

606 posted on 10/20/2008 10:45:15 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
You're the one who raised the irreproducible cold fusion experiment, not I.

And you're the one dodging my questions.

Cold fusion isn't mentioned in the Bible. Is that why you knew it couldn't be reproduced?

607 posted on 10/20/2008 10:48:44 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: DungeonMaster
No one uses the speed of light to define their origin or afterlife or ethics or world view though.

I do : )

The speed of light proves that an omnipotent God can't exist.

608 posted on 10/20/2008 10:56:05 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Cold fusion isn't mentioned in the Bible.

I know. It was an experiment that wasn't independently reproduced.

Like the e coli experiment.

609 posted on 10/20/2008 11:03:00 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
“”There is a deep seated fundamental conflict between Quantum theory and Einstein’s theory of relativity. Subtle difficulties become insurmountable problems when gravity is added.” —Paul Renteln, “Quantum Gravity”, American Scientist, 79, 508-527 (1991).

There is a new theory emerging that does away with that problem. The GUT may be closer than we think : )

Right now science is only accurate out to about 13 decimal places, give or take a few. The only difference between Einsteins and Newtons theories is a couple of decimal places. The quantum equations are even more accurate, but they are at the other end of the spectrum. It is going to be fun joining them up : )

610 posted on 10/20/2008 11:04:21 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
The speed of light proves that an omnipotent God can't exist.

Nonlocality proves that cultists are given to asserting baseless non sequiturs.

611 posted on 10/20/2008 11:08:41 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: LeGrande
The GUT may be closer than we think

Nonlocality has made it farther away than ever.

612 posted on 10/20/2008 11:10:48 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I find it disturbing when people cast you as a liberal or conservative not by what views you hold but by what lies you're willing to go along with.

That goes for a lot of other things as well. I think I am going to steal that line, if you don't mind : )

613 posted on 10/20/2008 11:17:44 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Mojave
Nonlocality has made it farther away than ever.

You don't understand it then. Everything is local.

614 posted on 10/20/2008 11:24:48 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
The speed of light proves that an omnipotent God can't exist.

Because the universe must be older than 6 thousand years in order to see galaxies billions of light years away?

615 posted on 10/20/2008 11:27:04 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Proverbs 24:21 My son, fear the LORD and the king; Do not associate with those given to CHANGE)
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To: Mojave
Nonlocality proves that cultists are given to asserting baseless non sequiturs.

Falsify the speed of light theory then : )

616 posted on 10/20/2008 11:27:15 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
Everything is local.

Instantaneous action at a distance.

617 posted on 10/20/2008 11:28:20 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Did you decide that cold fusion could not be reproduced on March 23, 1989?


618 posted on 10/20/2008 11:34:21 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

619 posted on 10/20/2008 11:57:21 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

620 posted on 10/20/2008 12:00:34 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Do you remember when blue was a feeling, gray was a word and one was a number...)
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