Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton
Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.
Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."
Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..
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How Clintonian. Your approximation, your figure.
It wasn't just one mutation. It is obviously a series of mutations that enabled e.coli to utilize citrate.
Really? How many?
Empiricism means based upon data.
Not on irreproducible results.
Not relevant to any of my posts.
You think you get to ask but never answer?
And OK, why won't you link them?
LOL!
No link, natch.
Dr. Lenski is figuring out what happened by finding the changes as we speak.
The results are replicable and have been replicated.
Your continued inability to deal with the data is noted. So much for calling my bluff. What a laugh.
From the link.
"Even if the church only has minister employees the church may still have to withhold income tax if the minister has elected voluntary income tax withholding on his Form W-4. As a result most churches will be required to withhold payroll taxes and remit them to the IRS."
Your father elected to pay taxes, not the Church. Most probably so that he could collect a higher Social Security payment.
How many people have tried but failed to get his results?
You must have a list.
And thanks for admitting Creationism is not science.
Yup, it's a neat little chinese fire drill they call science isn't it? Then they pretend to call it conservatism!
You are deliberately misunderstanding what we are telling you, but I'll try once again.
If data is found which falsifies the theory of evolution it will be because it contradicts major aspects of that theory. If this happens the theory will have to be replaced.
But, if data is found which corrects or amplifies some parts of the theory of evolution, the theory is modified to include that new data.
This is the way all sciences work.
Does that help to make things clearer?
Your simple approximation...
Do you disagree with the approximation?
Again:
"And since mutations allegedly occur randomly, your 8.6 year figure is pretty much meaningless. Multiple projects could be expected to have such a random mutation occur in one of them in a fraction of that time."
You apparently missed that in your panic.
As near as I can determine, this started with tpanther claiming Obama went and knocked on Joe Wurzelbacher's door.
Correcting that fictoid got you called an "Obama defender".
Yet if your and tpanther's positions on Cre/Ev were interchanged, sömeone (who is not you) might have called sömeone else (who is also not you) a liar.
Perhaps you could lend him or her a hand.
That is your proof that it's irreproducible? LOL!
Invent your own facts, invent your own words...
Your problem remains, this isn't what's going on with evolution because another theory already HAS challenged your cult of evo...and time and again it's been proven that "real" scientists have challenged it, and nothing they said was religious, or UN-scientific.
Continually parroting the same old failed talking points just doesn't change the reality of this situation for you. You're floundering along with the other cultists and this is why the tide is turning.
The experiment that has never been successfully reproduced. Man up and admit it.
Idiocy.
Your continued inability to deal with the data is bemusedly noted.
Clinton’s testimony wasn’t false. He just modified it over time.
Who tried and failed? Where is the list? You said it was irreproducible. You understand the difference?
Your problem remains, this isn't what's going on with evolution because another theory already HAS challenged your cult of evo...and time and again it's been proven that "real" scientists have challenged it, and nothing they said was religious, or UN-scientific.
And this "theory" that you consider has challenged the theory of evolution is? Intelligent Design? Creationism? I am honestly not aware of any scientific challenge to the theory of evolution.
One correction: Theories are not challenged by other theories, they are challenged by evidence, or facts.
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