Posted on 10/17/2008 7:59:18 AM PDT by Soliton
Three antievolutionists have been appointed to a six-member committee to review the draft set of Texas state science standards, and defenders of the integrity of science education in the Lone Star state are livid. "The committee was chosen by 12 of the 15 members of the board of education, with each panel member receiving the support of two board members," as the Dallas Morning News (October 16, 2008) explains. Six members of the board "aligned with social conservative groups" chose Stephen C. Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, Ralph Seelke, a biology professor at the University of Wiconsin, Superior, and Charles Garner, a chemistry professor at Baylor University.
Meyer, Seelke, and Garner are all signatories of the Discovery Institute-sponsored "Dissent from Darwinism" statement. Meyer and Seelke are also coauthors of Explore Evolution: The Arguments For and Against Neo-Darwinism (Hill House, 2008), which, like Of Pandas and People, is a supplementary textbook that is intended to instill scientifically unwarranted doubts about evolution. A recent review by biologist John Timmer summarized, "But the book doesn't only promote stupidity, it demands it. In every way except its use of the actual term, this is a creationist book." Garner reportedly told the Houston Press (December 14, 2000) that he "criticizes evolutionary theory in class."
Meyer and Seelke also testified in the 2005 "kangaroo court" hearings held by three antievolutionist members of the Kansas state board of education, in which a parade of antievolutionist witnesses expressed their support for the so-called minority report version of the state science standards (written with the aid of a local "intelligent design" organization), complained of repression by a dogmatic evolutionary establishment, and claimed to have detected atheism lurking "between the lines" of the standards..
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Have fun playing the "Soliton's Shifting Stance" game!
BTW, if you feel like having some fun, ask him to describe for you the difference between Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar.
It would still do my heart good to see a preacher teaching the truth for once. Even if it was only basic math.
Man! You sure haven't read my posts. I believe that the Earth has warmed an the Earth has cooled, but have never believed that it was man's fault. You need to learn the difference between global warming and anthropogenic global warming.
I read and refuted your attempt to put Sarah Palin in the "global warming" camp.
Put some ice on it.
There are preachers who teach the truth. They stick to ethical and moral and faith issues. They are concerned with salvation of the soul based on a system of belief they have accepted. They would never challenge the validity of science. They see it as a test of their faith. In other words, evolution may be true on a material basis, but creatioism is also true from a religious basis. That is what faith is for; believing things that can not be proven or rationalized.
What is your take on global warming and how is it affecting our country?
A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made. http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/sarah_palin_vp/2008/08/29/126139.html
Seems to agree with what Soliton said
Your quote shows that she accepts global warming may be part of a natural cycle. She is unsure as to weather it is caused by humans or not.
I made the point that Sarah Palin was NOT in the AGH camp, but does accept that global warming HAS occured. Geez!
WaPo was attacking her for not buying into their global warming rubbish.
Try not to be so dishonest.
“If the religious folk around here are so intent on injecting their false beliefs into Science, maybe the Churches should lose their tax exempt status unless they start teaching proper science in Church?”
Hi LeGrande! Long time, no see. Hope you are well!
1. Tax exempt status - OK by me - of course the government will have to start shouldering the charitable work and charge you for it...
2. False? You can prove that?
AGH? I see what they mean about your changing stances.
That is what faith is for; believing things that can not be proven or rationalized.
Would this apply to algae springing up out of mud somehow turning into salamanders, into rabbits, into monkeys, into great apes, into people with absolutely no purpose, all quite by "accident"?
No they are trying to slot her into the ignorant, tongue speaking, 6 day Creationist, Dominionist position. Because that's the only kind of conservative Christian they can imagine.
Yes, if that's what you believe. Scientists don't.
None of that was in the article. Try to be less blatant in your lying.
Are you a scientist?
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
No but that has been the whole thrust of the Democrat and Media (but I repeat myself) attacks on Sarah Palin over the past month. I recognise the brushwork.
And this is the second time you have accused me of lying. It's a leftist thing to represent a difference in opinion to be not possibly mistaken, but actually positively dishonest.
On the other hand, IIARC, you are a high school history teacher, with no background in science.
Hence, you have basically no credibility in making this sort of judgment.
You do science by adhering to the scientific method.
What creationists and creation "scientists" do is the opposite of the scientific method. They start with an a priori belief and twist, manipulate, or ignore the data to make things fit that belief.
That's not science; and it doesn't matter how many degrees one has, it still isn't science. Its apologetics.
Honestly challenging science is great :) If they can falsify Evolution or any other scientific principle that would be tremendously helpful.
The problem is that their basic view of the world is wrong. Truth does not come from false beliefs.
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