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JAPANESE LAUNCH SOUTH CHINA DRIVE IN HONG KONG AREA (10/12/38)
Microfiche-New York Times archives | 10/12/38 | F. Tillman Durdin

Posted on 10/12/2008 7:20:38 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime
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1 posted on 10/12/2008 7:20:38 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: fredhead; r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; ...
Vice-Admiral Kenji Maebara, retired commander of the Japanese fleet and former chief of the air force, aannounced tonight that his country wants to borrow up to $45,000,000 to establish an aviation corporation in Mukden, Manchukuo.

Sounds like a golden opportunity for a far-sighted investment bank. I understand the future of the global market lies in China.

In story #2, Cardinal Innitzer (who looks to me a little like Fred Astaire) is in more hot water over challenging the authority of the Nazi Education Association.

The final image is short articles on the same page as the Innitzer story. I cut and pasted them in the same order as they originally appeared. Note the final three: EGYPT THANKS PRESIDENT, REPORT JEWS ROUNDED UP, Belgian Princess is Eleven. Is that weird or what? How could they put a princess after some story about Egyptian gratitude?

And how about that survey? 60% Say Surrender to Hitler Was Preferable to Fight. That gives me hope we can recover from our current national divide.

2 posted on 10/12/2008 7:41:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (Barak Obama: Satan's sock-puppet)
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To: fredhead; r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; ...
A little back story on todays headliner.

More alert [than the Chinese-Homer], the Japanese took their cue from Munich. On October 12, two weeks after that day of "defeat without war," as Churchill called it, Japanese troops landed at Bias Bay on the Kwangtung coast 30 miles from Hong Kong. Negligence, corruption and some treachery opened their path and Canton was captured without serious opposition.

The British did not react because they could obtain no assurance of American support if action against Japan should involve them in war. The Chinese felt, according to Ambassador Johnson, "completely let down." In a message to President Roosevelt following the landing at Bias Bay, Chiang Kai-shek urged him to give the British the necessary encouragement for "cooperative intervention" in the Far East. He was not shy about stating his thesis. The problem of Asia, he instructed the President, could only be solved by collective action for which "leadership must come from the United States." That was the American dilemma. The United States was prepared neither to seize the leadership nor to acquiesce in Japanese control of China which must result from failure to seize it.

Barbara W. Tuchman, Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-45, p. 194

3 posted on 10/12/2008 7:43:44 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (Barak Obama: Satan's sock-puppet)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Good work Homey.


4 posted on 10/12/2008 8:13:02 AM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: metmom

Cardinal Innitzer’s 10 Rules for Parents could make this post worthy of a homeschool ping.


5 posted on 10/12/2008 8:52:18 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (Barak Obama: Satan's sock-puppet)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

the Nazi Education Association? and their acronym would be?


6 posted on 10/12/2008 1:38:29 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Do you want a President or a King?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
JAPANESE LAUNCH SOUTH CHINA DRIVE IN HONG KONG AREA

Oh for Pete's sake! How many forward gears do they need anyway?

The extra gear will just confuse people.

7 posted on 10/12/2008 1:40:54 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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Another poke in the eye for Czechoslovakia

What Chamberlain and Daladier at Munich had neglected to give Germany in Czechoslovakia the so-called “International Commission” proceeded to hand over. This hastily formed body consisted of the Italian, British and French ambassadors and the Czech minister in Berlin and Baron von Weizsaecker, the State Secretary in the German Foreign Office. Every dispute over additional territory for the Germans was settled in their favor, more than once under the threat from Hitler and OKW to resort to armed force. Finally, on October 13, the commission voted to dispense with the plebiscites which the Munich Agreement had called for in the disputed regions. There was no need for them.

William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, p. 421

8 posted on 10/13/2008 5:53:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (Barak Obama: Satan's sock-puppet)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
wow, what an incredible series of articles.

Nazis round up “profiteers”
Nazis want control of public education, church says, no, up to 14 its the parents
Japanese invade china, communists fight “guerrilla” war
-60% of Americans think chezck surrender to hitler good idea, even if it may not bring peace

one cant help but see the echoes of yesterday today.

9 posted on 10/13/2008 10:05:26 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
There is something really telling here when we look at that polling data.

Do you think that Germany's demands for the annexation of the Sudenten German areas in Czechoslovakia was justified?

Yes 27%
No 73%

Do you think that the settlement (agreed to by England, Frnace, and Germany) will result in peace for a number of years or in a greater possibility of war?

Peace 42%
War 58%

Do you believe that England and France did the best thing in giving in to Germany instead of going to war?

Yes 60%
No 40%

The majority of people felt that giving into Hitler would not prevent war, and was not justified, but still the majority of them thought it was the right thing to do. Anyone who really looked at these survey's could see the circular logic of it.

10 posted on 10/13/2008 10:13:49 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: CougarGA7

Interesting survey compared to reporting surveys today. The original question is stated and then the results so you can make your own assesment. Today they tell you what it means......................................


11 posted on 10/14/2008 9:31:20 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I think that’s because the papers did not have as much of a specific agenda compared to today. I’m not going to say that they were completely unbiased, but I feel (or my impression is) that they were less so then.


12 posted on 10/14/2008 10:13:33 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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