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Posted on 09/13/2008 10:24:53 PM PDT by djf

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1 posted on 09/13/2008 10:24:53 PM PDT by djf
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Please keep in mind that what you’ve just posted qualifies as “publication,” and you may be ineligible to obtain a patent on said idea if you delay filing your patent application more than 365 days from today.


2 posted on 09/13/2008 10:28:09 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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From someone who has multiple patents ... in mechanical patents, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between paper and working prototype. Invest in the time / effort / money to build a working model. Once you can show that it will work, you will have much more capital available to you. Until then, it’s just another (good) idea.


3 posted on 09/13/2008 10:28:43 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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I hope you get rich, make tons of money, live a life of total luxury and donate portions of your largess to worthy charities.


4 posted on 09/13/2008 10:32:56 PM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was a saint?)
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To: Southack

Well, then, I suppose the clock is ticking!

Seriously, from everything I’ve heard, ALL PATENTS ARE BREAKABLE.

But I’ve sat on this for quite a while, and am extremely, extremely interested in what the actual operational characteristics would be, and the applications.

A buddy of mine who is a fairly good engineer in his own right takes a look and he practically started drooling...
“motorcycles...”

Just seems to me there is no way you could build this thing and have it not be far, far more efficient than a standard 4 or 6 cylinder engine. You never lose any of the angular momentum.


5 posted on 09/13/2008 10:34:26 PM PDT by djf (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...)
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"Once you can show that it will work, you will have much more capital available to you."

It doesn't really even need to work. Just call it "green," say that it will reduce carbon emmissions and hack into Amazon's database for the names of people who bought algore's books and movie.

These are the suckers who'll be willing to throw good money your way whether it actually works or not.

6 posted on 09/13/2008 10:34:48 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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"You never lose any of the angular momentum."

Neither do jet engines, but that makes them powerful...not fuel efficient.

7 posted on 09/13/2008 10:37:49 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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I just forwarded this to myth busters


8 posted on 09/13/2008 10:45:55 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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9 posted on 09/13/2008 10:50:42 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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I'm missing something. Maybe if you drew a few force vectors on there it would be easier to see. Which way does it spin? How does the piston push on the wheel? Is it in a combustion chamber, or is the combustion done in the spring loaded slot?
10 posted on 09/13/2008 10:52:54 PM PDT by chaos_5 (See my profile for cool McCain/Palin "lipstick" stickers!)
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"Neither do jet engines, but that makes them powerful...not fuel efficient."
Gas turbine engines are very fuel efficient per horsepower/pound.

Using exhaust thrust for propulsion is whats not very efficient.

There is a reason they are putting turboprops in airplanes.

More power, less weight, better efficiency.

At least thats the way I understand it.
11 posted on 09/13/2008 10:56:10 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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With any other piston type engine, the piston goes up, then stops, then goes down. Each time it reverses direction, you are losing momentum.

Doesn’t happen in this design. The piston is continuously rotating right along in the rotor.

The actual angle of the cylinder in terms of the exposed face determines the operation characteristics.

I have designs of these with not even straight cylinders, but arced cylinders. And arced pistons.
Like I said, the varieties are huge. And each variety may suit a particular application.

The only questions I had when I first thought of it was whether it was able to be built and run a long time without extensive wear. But after discussions with a couple folks, I know it’s well within the tolerances of current technologies.

It is, for all intents and purposes, a passive rotor.

Need a new engine? Pull up to the joint, he pulls a bunch of bolts and yanks out this round, flat cylindrical shaped thing, and drops a new one in.

Presto chango.


12 posted on 09/13/2008 10:56:35 PM PDT by djf (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...)
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13 posted on 09/13/2008 10:57:29 PM PDT by danamco
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The piston is in it’s rest position. When compressed, it pushes into the cylinder against the spring.

The rotor turns counterclockwise.


14 posted on 09/13/2008 10:59:14 PM PDT by djf (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...)
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Sorry, but this isn't making any sense to me.

Where does combustion take place? Why the spring? It will just absorb the energy, and convert it to heat. Why?

How does the fuel/air fed to the system? Why a piston at all? Why not just a chamber or bucket of sorts, for the expanding gases to react against?

Why is the piston so small? How much energy transfer do you expect to get from such a small surface area?

How is this an improvement over a standard rotary engine?

The drawing is way to basic to make any kind of assessment.

15 posted on 09/13/2008 10:59:41 PM PDT by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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When you build the prototype, you’ll find out why it won’t work.


16 posted on 09/13/2008 11:00:29 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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I know, it was just a quick drawing I made. The entire unit rotates, and is housed in something else that has actual combustion chambers or compressed air feeds.

There is no way you can supply mechanical energy to the piston and compress it against the spring and NOT have the unit rotate on you.

That’s what it’s designed to do.


17 posted on 09/13/2008 11:05:07 PM PDT by djf (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...)
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So the rotor is of center, and it's rotation causes the piston to move against the spring, and compression occurs between the chamber wall and the outside of the rotor?
18 posted on 09/13/2008 11:05:10 PM PDT by chaos_5 (See my profile for cool McCain/Palin "lipstick" stickers!)
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It looks like the design of a sliding vane pump.


19 posted on 09/13/2008 11:07:39 PM PDT by topsail
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But why do you need the spring? I'm just not getting what concept you're going for.

Is it similar to the diagram in post 9?

20 posted on 09/13/2008 11:08:51 PM PDT by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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