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Might purchase a Smith & Wesson M&P 45 ACP
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Posted on 09/08/2008 6:52:43 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear

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To: potlatch

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9mm is not a real “stopper”

.45acp will stop them

The Germans in WWII loved the 45acp - they manufactured them - some in Norway I believe

Lots of great ammo choices too

A wheelgun is more reliable if a problem occurs

Simply use the next chamber

2 quick large caliber shots to the upper mass is the key

A pistol requires clearing the chamber

Time can kill you

Before you can clear a jammed or damaged cartridge case in a pistol I have already reloaded 6 more .44-40s and fired them

Learn to be firing as soon as you clear leather as you raise your iron

Waiting to see the sights can be fatal


21 posted on 09/08/2008 7:15:28 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: Squantos

I’ve been thinking about a S&W 357 for the versatility of firing 38 shells. Right now my weapons include my Remington 12g Super Magnum Express and what ever they issue me at the Armory window...


22 posted on 09/08/2008 7:16:08 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: bolobaby

So you’d buy it again? Sounding good...


23 posted on 09/08/2008 7:17:20 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: devolve; Grizzled Bear

I knew you were well informed on guns.


24 posted on 09/08/2008 7:18:03 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: devolve

That’s why I’ll be getting my a revolver.


25 posted on 09/08/2008 7:18:26 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear; TexasRedeye
so I will start with: Get a Springfield XD.

I concur.

Mine has functioned flawlessly with whatever I've fed it.

L

26 posted on 09/08/2008 7:20:19 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: devolve
That’s why I’ll be getting my a revolver.

my WIFE a revolver...

27 posted on 09/08/2008 7:24:15 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

If you have minimal resources for home security I would suggest a 4 inch S&W 686 as your ladies can use it as well as you. Like it or not some ladies and even some men or elderly can not operate a slide on a semi auto. A wheel gun is a very basic good handgun for the home for self defense IMO and experience. With a CHL (permit) this can be carried when out and about easily with a IWB thumbreak holster as well.

Were I issuing guns to evey home in America I would issue the following as a basic set of personal defense / security and foraging tools.

Pump Shotgun
Scoped Bolt Action Rifle in .308 or 30-06
2 x 38/357 revolvers
A Scoped small bolt action or 10-22 style semi auto .22 rimfire for small game and knee capping rioters or looters.

just my opinion of course.......:o)

You still active duty ?


28 posted on 09/08/2008 7:34:10 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos
You still active duty ?

For at least two more years. I want to finish my degree and get into the "Troops to Teachers" program.

I like your list. At some point I'll get a big revolver.

29 posted on 09/08/2008 7:42:35 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear; potlatch

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2 revolvers

.357 is OK

Bigger is better

For a woman a .357 is OK - .38 for practice

Always think of ear protection for practice - many later will agree -like my older brother who carries a Ruger .357

I’ve seen local LEOs carry a 40 pistol and a .357 revolver as backup

Nice iron I told them

But 2 in matched calibers are simpler and could save your life

I’m fortunate in that I can draw and have good accuracy with both hands - and at the same time

PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE

KEEP YOUR BACK TO THE WALL


30 posted on 09/08/2008 7:54:25 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Well good luck and hope we see ya teaching around here in Texas !

Stay safe !


31 posted on 09/08/2008 7:57:37 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Grizzled Bear

S&W is a 2nd Sell Out, not buying them.


32 posted on 09/08/2008 8:02:27 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Lurker

Glock 23C or Sig 229. The sig 229 is costy but what is your life worth? My 229 has never failed, ever. I shoot good ammo through it and keep it clean. The Glock 23C is the compinsated version and I love it for follow up shots. It is quick!!! The Glock has stove-piped on me twice in 5K rounds. For the house I keep a 12 gage 870 riot gun/extended mag stoked with buckshot. When you work the slide the sound is unmistakable and will stop about anyone dead in their tracks.


33 posted on 09/08/2008 8:07:09 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Retired AB ranger and damn proud of it!!! I served to support our constitution and our way of life.)
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To: dila813

Too late.

They were sold and the new owners rejected the agreement.


34 posted on 09/08/2008 8:07:38 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: devolve
{KEEP YOUR BACK TO THE WALL}

And don't watch TV westerns or shoot the lib news announcer!


35 posted on 09/08/2008 8:08:25 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: dila813

http://actionamerica.org/guns/swbetray.html

Boycott of S&W, I don’t believe it was ever called off.

I may have missed what they have done to redeem themselves.


36 posted on 09/08/2008 8:08:47 PM PDT by dila813
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To: MileHi

Weren’t they still agreeing to the CA Serialization Scheme?


37 posted on 09/08/2008 8:09:48 PM PDT by dila813
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To: TexasRedeye
Advice? you’ll get plenty so I will start with: Get a Springfield XD. One hole gun out of the box. 14 rounds of .45ACP in your hand.

I'll second the motion. XD-45 is an awesome pistol. As for plastic, I have the XD-45, a Glock 23 and a HK USP Compact 40...all outstanding pistols.

38 posted on 09/08/2008 8:17:30 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: dila813

Don’t know about that. That came scheme came recently. I thought I read Kimber was working on that, not sure, so who knows. For now buy what works for you.


39 posted on 09/08/2008 8:18:30 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: potlatch

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primers and wax let you duel with Charles Bronson

Get a good dog to warn you and warn off any home invaders too

A large hunting dog that hates strangers

Get 2 dogs

Blue Glasers may protect any family in the next room


40 posted on 09/08/2008 8:18:42 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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