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I want to find a concise summary of justifications for invading Iraq (Vanity)

Posted on 09/08/2008 11:04:18 AM PDT by Nomen Klatura

I want to provide my spouse with a good, cocktail-party-length explanation for why we invaded Iraq. She wants to be better informed and more conversant, and while I can give her the 1/2 hour version, I need it distilled down to about 2 or 3 minutes. Otherwise, she will be lecturing her friends (which she won't do). Care to help?

To whatever the FR forum provides, I will add (because I never hear anyone else say it) that Hussein declared that he had extensive WMD after Desert Storm. He actually listed them. He later told the UN that he destroyed them, but we would not be allowed to inspect or see for ourselves. We would simply have to trust him. We refused to trust him, so we went in by force to check for ourselves. People seem to have forgotten that he made an extensive, troubling declaration. Nobody knows what Hussein truly had, or what he would do with them if he was left in power.

My spouse will use this info to pick-off some potential Obama votes, which she is in a position to do. Hopefully that's a good incentive for the forum to take my request seriously.

Thanks for any constructive help.


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To: Nomen Klatura

# 6 is good if arguing from a religious viewpoint.

If arguing from a strictly political viewpoint, you could just give Biden and/or Kerry quotes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2066709/posts?page=1#1


21 posted on 09/08/2008 11:52:46 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Nomen Klatura
Logic will not work. Have your wife try this:

After a little pleasantries have her just say, “Don’t say anything and for heaven’s sake don’t look, but I think that man over there is strapped with a bomb!” When they drop their brie canapé and the glass of pinot noir on the floor, your wife can then ask without alarm, “I’m sorry. Wasn’t the cheese to your liking? Can I get you a refill?”

22 posted on 09/08/2008 11:52:52 AM PDT by UpInArms (no failure, no success, only slavery)
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To: Onerom99
why the hell does the UN even exist?

They shouldn't...obviously. And that's despite any "resolutions" they proposed.

I say move the worthless corrupt money pit...to Haiti. And then see how many of the U.N. leaches move there.

23 posted on 09/08/2008 11:55:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Nomen Klatura

**Actually Bush Didn’t Lie **
(Dinesh D’Souza)
http://townhall.com/columnists/DineshDSouza/2008/01/28/actually_bush_didnt_lie


24 posted on 09/08/2008 11:55:51 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Nomen Klatura

Simple.

Saddam was a sworn enemy of the United States. After 9-11 an example needed to be made of our enemies. Paticularly, our middle eastern enemies.

Friend of the U.S. = Good.

Enemy of the U.S. = Bad.

Khadaffi for example got the message.


25 posted on 09/08/2008 11:58:21 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Nomen Klatura

tag for reference


26 posted on 09/08/2008 11:58:52 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Nomen Klatura

bump


27 posted on 09/08/2008 11:59:24 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: fireman15
We had more than enough justification to take him down and make an example of Iraq.

Precisely, FRiend. I don't know why people get into the weapons of mass destruction issue or U.N. sanctions issue or any other issue.

28 posted on 09/08/2008 12:02:41 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: fireman15
We had more than enough justification to take him down and make an example of Iraq.

Precisely, FRiend. I don't know why people get into the weapons of mass destruction issue or U.N. sanctions issue or any other issue.

29 posted on 09/08/2008 12:02:49 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: LtKerst
Bravo. Seven Excellent Reasons Why we are In Iraq:

1) Iraq is a roach motel. Sorry, but there it is. I would rather our brave armed forces kill a million islamofacists over there than have smallpox over here.

2) The people who hate us will hate us no matter what, and they only respect strength. They took out 3000 Innocent Americans whose only crime was going to work in the morning. We should take out 300,000 bombhats just to make our point.

3) Part of why 3000 people in New York had to make the choice of burning alive or jumping to their deaths is that we have been at war with radical Islam for 25 years, and have pretty much just rolled over and gone back to sleep each time. It took this long for us to get over being "nice guys" and doing what had to be done, which is pounding the playground bully's face into the cement over and over and over until he assumes room temperature. As is said, a dead dog will not bite you, and the rest of the dogs will begin to understand who the real Alpha is once you kill off the pack leader and the next nine dogs who step up to discuss it.

3) GEEK CONTENT FOLLOWS: We are in Iraq for the same reason the Pierson Puppeteers got the Kazinti to attack the humans. Because when you get all the kill-crazy, testosterone-bloated, vengeful killers off to war and kill them, that trait is bred out of the next generation. Step right up for your virgins, boys.

4) Because their toy "religion" would enslave you and kill your children. It cannot be bargained with any more than the Borg or those damn bugs in Starship Troopers. This s a war, dammit, and we are going to have to offend somebody.

5) Saddam starved his own people while he lived like a king, and would kill your entire village if you looked at him funny; and he did so with toxic gas, which he had. He fed people into plastic shredders feet first so they could watch themselves die, and invited their families in to watch. He imprisoned children as young as five as political prisoners. Given the places that the Left would LIKE us to intervene, how could we possibly NOT take action against a maniac like Saddam. What more reason did we need?

6) Saddam acted for ten years like he had nukes, and defied 14 resolutions from the impotent, cluckoid, completely corrupt UN to turn over all paperwork relating to it. We knew he gassed his own people. What more reason did we need?

7) Clinton made war on much nicer people just to distract from his slipping it to an intern. Gets some perspective.

30 posted on 09/08/2008 12:08:58 PM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: Nomen Klatura

It was the expressed desire of the US to seek regime change in Iraq according to a law passed by the US Congress during the Clinton Administration. Clinton was too chicken to do it, Bush wasn’t.


31 posted on 09/08/2008 12:10:16 PM PDT by vigilence
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To: Nomen Klatura

You’ll probably remember that under Clinton Congress voted to overthrow Saddam.

Bush carried it out.

You might also remember that under Clinton they indicted Bin Ladin, and in the indictment they charged that Bin Ladin and Saddam were allies. Thats all gone down the memory hole now, of course.

You might remember that the arab wannabes that blew up the World Trade Center in the early nineties were led by two Iraqis. One got away and went home and was given a pension by Saddam. The other got away to Iraq and from there went on to Pakistan where he was captured and is now doing time. He is usually identified as being a Baluchi. But his mates in the conspiracy called him “the Iraqi”. I would assume that native arab speakers would know the difference between a native Iraqi accent and a Pakistani accent. In any case he came from Baghdad and returned to Baghdad.

He had the plans on his computer for a 911-style attack, and it was his cousin who led the 911 attack.

So no point going after Bin Ladin without going after Saddam too.

The 911 attackers met with Iraqis in Malaysia before launching the attack.

And Bin Ladin’s inner circle consists of Islamic Jihad members. Islamic Jihad was on Saddam’s payroll. We’re talking Zawahiri here. So when people say that there is no connection between Bin Ladin and Saddam, its just words. There were plenty of connections. Saddam announced before 911 that he was preparing a dramatic false flag attack. Bin Ladin is the false flag. No point taking out Bin Ladin and leaving Saddam in place.


32 posted on 09/08/2008 12:10:22 PM PDT by marron
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To: Nomen Klatura
Hows about the fact that GW I wasn't ended with a peace treaty, but a cease fire agreement. And the instant Saddamn broke the cease fire, we were at war with Iraq again.

And then there's....

Saddam Hussein's Philanthropy of Terror

33 posted on 09/08/2008 12:11:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Nomen Klatura

making notes bump!


34 posted on 09/08/2008 12:12:04 PM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamofascist Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: marron
To your first point...

H.R.4655 Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Enrolled Bill (Sent to President))

And Bubba signed it, didn't he...

35 posted on 09/08/2008 12:13:18 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Nomen Klatura

Better to fight the enemy on his soil than on ours.


36 posted on 09/08/2008 12:14:43 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Bitsy
Please give Saddam his due. It's 72 virgins.

Seventy-two Virgins
by Steve Martin
January 29, 2007

Women Virgin No. 1: Yuck.
Virgin No. 2: Ick.
Virgin No. 3: Ew.
Virgin No. 4: Ow.
Virgin No. 5: Do you like cats? I have fourteen!
Virgin No. 6: I’m Becky. I’ll be legal in two years.
Virgin No. 7: Here, I’ll just pull down your zipper. Oh, sorry!
Virgin No. 8: Can we cuddle first?
Virgin No. 9: It was a garlic-and-onion pizza. Why?
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Virgin No. 16: Even I know that’s tiny.
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Virgin No. 19: Somewhere on my body I have hidden a buffalo nickel.
Virgin No. 20: Don’t touch my hair!
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Virgin No. 22: Do you mind if we listen to Mannheim Steamroller?
Virgin No. 23: Are you O.K. with the dog on the bed?
Virgin No. 24: Would you mind saying, “Could I see you in my office, Miss Witherspoon?”?
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Virgin No. 32: I’m a virgin because I’m so ugly.
Virgin No. 33: You like-ee?
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Virgin No. 58: Those are my testicles.
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Virgin No. 68: Pee-yoo. Are you wearing Aramis?
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Virgin No. 72: It was paradise, until you showed up.

37 posted on 09/08/2008 12:18:54 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Nomen Klatura

If the libs don’t believe that Saddam housed and sponsor terrorists, you can refer to Stephen Hayes book, “The Connection.” Zarqawi was in Iraq setting up his al Qaeda cells and there where terrorists camps, e.g., Salman Pac. Even Clinton in his 1998 speech preparing America for war against Saddam mentions WMD, rogue state and terrorists having access to WMD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0f5u_0ytUs


38 posted on 09/08/2008 12:24:24 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Nomen Klatura
What is Iraq?

We invaded it? When?

39 posted on 09/08/2008 12:29:09 PM PDT by Allegra (Prayers up for all in Ike's path. Please be safe.)
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To: Allegra

Not that you’d know anything about Iraq...


40 posted on 09/08/2008 12:30:34 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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