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AMERICA-The Right Way!Sept 8-12,2008[Remember the WTC, the Pentagon & Flight 93]
All of Us | Sept. 8, 2008 | Various News sources and Free Republic members

Posted on 09/08/2008 4:36:08 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher

Is the Obama campaign falling thru the floor? New poll numbers favor McCain/Palin.

Hurricane Ike crosses over Cuba heading for the GOM and another possible US landing.

Sarah Palin will sit down with ABC's Charles Gibson for a one on one interview this week.

The federal government has taken over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in an effort to stabilize the struggling housing market. That means you, me, all us taxpayers... have assumed the risk of this bailout...

And finally, the 7th anniversary of a horrendous day in our beloved country's history approaches..

Let's keep our country, our citizens, and that day's victims in our prayers this week.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: liberty; natlsecurity
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To: tillacum; All
The Dems are in full trot now. The front page lies are coming
461 posted on 09/12/2008 12:41:21 PM PDT by The Raven (50-08 50 States in 2008)
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To: Jemian

Thanks, Jem. Well, it might blow over in about 3 days, but the recovery from the devastation effects can go on for weeks, months, or years.


462 posted on 09/12/2008 1:05:02 PM PDT by Two Thirds Vote Aye (McCain-Palin: The antidote for America's poisonous infection of radical liberal socialism.)
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To: Crystal Cove; tillacum; Molly Pitcher; lysie
Wellllll, to start with...

-There's the Bakken Reserve in North Dakota. It is said to be at least as large as the Saudi Arabia known find at about 500 billion barrels...can we drill there now? Nope. Not allowed.

-There's offshore, but the recent legistation only opens up a tiny portion, to give Dems cover to say they voted for offshore...

-There's still the shale-to-oil conversion that brings the Rockies region into play that is currently out, legislatively....

-And then there's ANWR...out by legislation...

Is that enough or do you want more? ;-))
463 posted on 09/12/2008 1:06:44 PM PDT by Bitwhacker
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To: All

Well, the media has been saying Ike would strengthen into a Cat 4 while passing over the warm Gulf

Wrong again

He's just barely a Cat 2

464 posted on 09/12/2008 1:07:14 PM PDT by The Raven (50-08 50 States in 2008)
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To: Bitwhacker

You know how the old saying goes - if you want less of something - tax it?

I’m working on this plan to tax Democrats.


465 posted on 09/12/2008 1:10:52 PM PDT by The Raven (50-08 50 States in 2008)
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To: Crystal Cove

I’ve read we have more than Iran, more than Saudia Arabia plus other countries. We have oil in Alaska plus natural gas, the Bakken oil field in Montana (it’s huge, extends into Canada) Co has oil, TX has oil on-shore and off-shore plus natural gas, CA has off-shore and on shore oil, WY has oil, PA has natural gas and oil, FL has off-shore oil, LA has oil on-shore and off-shore, MS has off-shore oil, AL has oil, OK has oil, these are to name a few. These states have their infrastructure already in place to move the oil. What we need too are new refineries without the epa constantly changing the rules to keep them from operating. Remember, back when clinton was president he sold our oil reserves to Occidental Petroleum? Algore owns a goodly number of shares with that company. But, you are right, we do have 3% or more of oil reserves, but I don’t know about the 3% of the world’s oil reserve.

I think if we will stick together and get our congress critters off their high falootin’ butts and put through a pork free bill to open our oil fields plus building new refineries, we will be free of foreign oil. We will need an up and down vote. We need to stay on these “representatives of the people, to get what is needed for this country. We might even be able to help out the European countries who depend on the Caspian Sea oil line that Russia uses to transport their oil. At the moment Europe has to stay as quiet as church mice when the Russian midget rattles his saber, ‘cause they’re worried silly he might cut off their oil.

At this moment in time, I’ve heard we have enough coal to meet our country’s needs for 200 years and enough oil and natural gas to meet our needs for about 160 years.

I think we should all put our heads together and think of all the products we use that began as oil. (This computer we’re using and all of it’s components, for instance) Think of all the ways we use coal. One other way with hard coal is jewelry.

Sorry I’ve used so much band-width, there are two national areas of interest for me, our military and their care for this nation and oil, gas and coal for our country’s needs.


466 posted on 09/12/2008 1:14:53 PM PDT by tillacum (Nobama, a man who is never in doubt and always in error, vote Republican)
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To: The Raven

The Dems, being the Party of Death, are aborting themselves at such a pace that all we have to do is sit back and wait — but then there are all those college students who adolize Che, so maybe my theory is problemmatic...;-))


467 posted on 09/12/2008 1:15:13 PM PDT by Bitwhacker
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To: Jemian

Thank you Jem. I think we might get swished by the wind and some needed rain. But kassie is in it’s path.

I’ve been thinking of Toby too. It’s unusual for him to stay away this long.


468 posted on 09/12/2008 1:17:49 PM PDT by tillacum (Nobama, a man who is never in doubt and always in error, vote Republican)
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To: Bitwhacker

What I have found is that drilling is occurring at the Bakken Reserve, but that the oil is hard to extract. Your link refers to an upcoming USGS report (since released) that says there is 3-4 billion barrels of “technically removable” oil there.

Where I live we have numerous offshore platforms, and drilling going on next door to houses, in parking lots and lots of random places. The oil platforms look really pretty at night.

I just have never heard that we have so much oil.


469 posted on 09/12/2008 1:27:35 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: The Raven

Me thinks little Annie has her head straight up where the sun don’t shine. Has she never heard binladen and alqueda met with Saddam more than once? Has she not heard the “yellow cake” in Niger, (which didn’t exist according to wilson) is now in Canada? I’m not the brightest bulb in the porch light, but I remember these things.


470 posted on 09/12/2008 1:32:35 PM PDT by tillacum (Nobama, a man who is never in doubt and always in error, vote Republican)
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To: Crystal Cove; tillacum; Molly Pitcher
About that USGS report:

"The USGS did an initial study back in 1999 that estimated 400 billion recoverable barrels were present but with prices bottoming out at $10 a barrel back then the report was dismissed because of the higher cost of horizontal drilling techniques that would be needed, estimated at $20-$40 a barrel."

So, with oil prices "bottoming" at $109 a barrel, it appears to me that those 400 billion barrels of ND oil are in play, would you not agree?
471 posted on 09/12/2008 1:36:39 PM PDT by Bitwhacker
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To: Bitwhacker

Bit, if we let all those dems abort their “mistakes” and let men marry men and women marry women, pretty soon we won’t have a democrat left. Then we’ll be free..hee hee, Then we’ll be free hee hee.


472 posted on 09/12/2008 1:40:47 PM PDT by tillacum (Nobama, a man who is never in doubt and always in error, vote Republican)
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To: Bitwhacker

It would be nice if they were in play. The USGS report from April 2008 seems to contradict the 1999 estimate you refer to.


473 posted on 09/12/2008 1:52:32 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Crystal Cove; tillacum; Molly Pitcher

OK, so I guess we don’t try at all. There is *no* oil around the continental and even extra-continental US that we can conceivably go after, even though we haven’t looked for it for 30 years in some places...I am not buying that porposition. I think there are waaay more than 3-4 billion barrels in Bakken, and even the Chinese realize that there is oil in the Caribbean, yet we choose not to pursue it, regardless of how ‘pretty the rigs are at night’...;-))


474 posted on 09/12/2008 1:59:38 PM PDT by Bitwhacker
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To: Bitwhacker

Are you somehow interpreting my comments as meaning I am against drilling for oil?


475 posted on 09/12/2008 2:01:16 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Crystal Cove
No, what I am questioning is how can the estimate go from 175-500 billion barrels to 3-4 billion in ND just like that? Is it there or not? Before, the reason for not pursuing the oil was the 10$ per barrel price made it inefficient. We are at $109 a barrel, so maybe we should reexamine Bakken.

But more than that, have you considered how much off-shore has been off-limits? When was the last time we even looked for oil deposits near the areas declared off-limits?

I would like to know what is available, in real terms, and I don't think we know for sure...;-))
476 posted on 09/12/2008 2:07:41 PM PDT by Bitwhacker
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To: Bitwhacker

It sounds to me, from the little reading I did on it, that the estimates about the total oil there have not changed. It seems it is the extraction that is the problem. I don’t have time to look for more stuff on this right now, and the cost of gas doesn’t really bother me enough to care about it. I paid $3.73 a gallon the other day, and was happy it was so cheap, but it’s just not something I think about a lot, to be honest. Sometimes, though, it costs me triple digits to fill my tank and that does catch my eye.

I thought the areas that are off limits to drilling were mostly in the Gulf of Mexico, and that we already knew there was oil there.

I can see oil platforms from my windows, and we had the big Chevron oil fields down the street from me. We have refineries around here (Orange County, California). I always hear how off-shore drilling is forbidden, and that California enviro-wackos prevent it, but I can see it going on every day. We have a nuclear power plant 25 miles away, too.

But yes, we should know how much oil is available here in the US.


477 posted on 09/12/2008 2:33:52 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: tillacum

BO....smell the change


478 posted on 09/12/2008 2:35:25 PM PDT by bevlar (Always forgive your enemies, but never forget their names :-))
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To: bevlar

Threads dead Fred....:-(


479 posted on 09/12/2008 2:58:43 PM PDT by bevlar (Always forgive your enemies, but never forget their names :-))
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To: bevlar

Yep...and we know who the murderer is, don’t we Queen Bev?


480 posted on 09/12/2008 3:31:09 PM PDT by bevlar (Always forgive your enemies, but never forget their names :-))
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