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1 posted on 08/11/2008 1:45:29 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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They are editing and throwing out a lot more recent classics like Huck Finn. All because of political correctness religion.


2 posted on 08/11/2008 1:46:52 PM PDT by Luke21
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Wonderful post and well worth the read. Fine writing, too. Thanks!


3 posted on 08/11/2008 1:55:21 PM PDT by hershey
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What happens when they find all those lost Greek tragedies? Will we find the authors were more repetitive then they seemed to our ancestors? Will we think better of the dramatists for their inventiveness in coming up with so many plots, or will we think less of the existing works, seeing them as just more of the same?


4 posted on 08/11/2008 1:58:24 PM PDT by x
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Epicurus, the creed's founder, was a fourth century BC atomist philosopher with an atheistic bent and a medicinal aim. He wanted to remedy human pain in this life rather than prepare sufferers for the next. "Nothing to fear in God," he wrote, displaying a talent for pithy distillation. "Nothing to feel in death. Good can be attained. Evil can be endured."

. . .

"Epicurus's philosophy exercised so widespread an influence that for a long time it was touch and go whether Christianity might not have to give way before it," writes Lawrence Durrell in a tone of lament.

Being told to do whatever you want and that there is no God to to fear is as attractive to people today as it was in Rome. It's the same ancient battle.

7 posted on 08/11/2008 2:33:51 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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There are two mysteries of the ancients that I want to see resolved before I die:

1. Open the tomb of Qin She Huang, the first emperor of China whose terracotta army still stands guard outside his tomb.

2. Open, conserve and decipher the Herculaneum library that may contain all those unknown books from the ancient world.


9 posted on 08/11/2008 3:00:55 PM PDT by wildbill
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This is a fascinating article. I do hope they can continue to excavate this ancient site. And yes, it is quite a paradox that so violent a destructive explosion has preserved so many antique works of art.
10 posted on 08/11/2008 3:03:32 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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When I ask to view a papyrus fragment from the vaults, a librarian pauses to absorb the request . . . She returns carrying a gun-metal tray on which a sheet of papyrus, older than many a classical fluted column and as brittle as a desiccated insect wing, . . .

Reminds me of the mind-blowing work they did with the Dead Sea Scrolls. There was a pile of fragments, most the size of confetti, that were also recovered. Since the Scrolls were made out of sheepskin, they did DNA tests on every scrap and seperated out the "pages". Then they began to piece them together - and succeeded. History owes a lot to folks like that.

11 posted on 08/11/2008 3:49:18 PM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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Thanks for posting this great thread.


A carbonized scroll from Herculaneum

Getting words out of those sticks of charcoal seemed an impossible task until scientists at Brigham Young University (BYU), in Utah, devised a revolutionary new multi-spectral imaging technology.

The technology, originally developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab to study planet surfaces, can distinguish microscopic variations in the chemical composition of substances — such as ink on the burned scroll parchment — and turn them into clear images.

"Where conventional photography has failed, multi-spectral imaging, with its uniquely designed filter system and a modified digital camera, has provided readable images of these carbonized scrolls. Basically, we are able to take out the blackness of the papyri and enhance the ink because they have different reflective characteristics," Steven Booras, imaging project manager of the BYU Institute for the Study and Preservation of Ancient Religious Texts, said.

Instead of taking two or three weeks to read a few letters on small, frail scrolls, the new technology, described in the recent documentary Out of the Ashes: Recovering the Lost Library of Herculaneum, allows scholars to read the papyri very easily. Text is visible where no ink was previously detected.

"We are finding new readings on almost any papyri we are looking at. As long as the page itself is not broken, we can expect to find some dramatic improvement," Roger Macfarlane, director of the BYU Herculaneum Papyri Project, said.

Among the works scholars hope to read using the new technology are Aristotle's lost 30 dialogues, philosophical work by Epicurus, erotic poems by Philodemus, Virgilius' lost eclogue, scientific work by Archimedes and lesbian poetry by Sappho.

After imaging more than 10,000 scroll fragments, the BYU team is now working to create a permanent digital library of the papyri and make it available on the Internet.

"Scholars around the world will be able to sit in front of their computers and study these papyri," Macfarlane said.


A carbonized scroll fragment is read under a microscope at the National Library in Naples, Italy.

Picture: Mark Philbrick/Brigham Young University/courtesy Biblioteca Nazionale, Naples, Italy |

"Modern-day Ercolano sits on top of it. Several buildings, including the town hall, would have to be pulled down to make way for the digging," Pietro Giovanni Guzzo, Pompeii's archaeological superintendent, said.


Villa of the Papyri under excavation

12 posted on 08/11/2008 8:25:24 PM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become the more you can hear.)
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Scientists use MRI at Kadlec to look at ancient Roman scrolls
Tri-City Herald | Thursday, Jul. 10, 2008 | Sara Schilling
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13 posted on 08/11/2008 10:19:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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14 posted on 08/11/2008 10:20:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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It won’t make much difference. Present day kids aren’t reading the classics that have been preserved.


17 posted on 08/12/2008 8:40:25 AM PDT by curmudgeonII
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BFL


18 posted on 08/12/2008 10:04:43 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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"...Western civilisation's lost classics..."

Many of them are now available as audiobooks ;-)


19 posted on 08/12/2008 10:09:06 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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bump


21 posted on 08/12/2008 10:23:09 AM PDT by VOA
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also of interest:

New life given to ancient Egyptian texts stored at Stanford for decades
Stanford University | July 23, 2008 | Adam Gorlick
Posted on 07/24/2008 8:09:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2050553/posts


27 posted on 08/13/2008 12:11:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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