Posted on 07/11/2008 4:06:06 AM PDT by Soliton
Louisiana is another story. A hub of creationist activism since the early 1980s, it was Louisiana that enacted the Balanced Treatment Act, which required that creationism be taught alongside evolution in schools. In a landmark 1987 case known as Edwards vs Aguillard, the US Supreme Court ruled the law unconstitutional, effectively closing the door on teaching "creation science" in public schools. ID was invented soon afterwards as a way of proffering creationist concepts without specific reference to God.
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It is interesting that ‘scientists’ see objective discussions as a threat.
If Darwinism were the key to good science education, surely we’d have the world’s best, after all these years. However ...
Why can’t we all just admit that MATH is the key, followed by memorization of observable facts? “Here are the parts of a cell. Label them and describe their function, and make sure you spell them correctly.”
suppose you were told you had to teach magic as an alternative to math in math class? How smart would our kids be then?
"Objective discussion" isn't what is being offered. ID is subjective. It is a deliberate fraud. The Discovery Institute is a pack of proven liars. See:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-tk7MkHKtI
Don’t hold a match near that strawman.
Is it really about science versus magic? I personally can comprehend the wonders of science and still lead a rich spiritual life. No. The struggles in academia beginning at daycare is about who gets to form children's hearts and minds. The struggle is between amoral relativism favored by secular humanists and traditional morality expressed in personal responsibility, the value of human life and the family.
ID is creationism. Creationism is magic. No strawman anywhere to be seen.
It is a sad state when ‘science’ gets to the point where it thinks there can be no dissenting opinions.
Science accepts dissenting scientific opinion. ID is religion. That is what is so stupid about what Louisiana has done. ID has already been found to be creationism in disguise in a court of law. The Supreme Court has ruled that Creationism cannot be taught in public schools. This new law will be found unconstitutional and a lot of money will be wasted.
LOL, coming in the age of global warming that is a laughable point. Science is become a corrupted by PC thinking. Doctors today are taught important scientific 'facts' today such as gayness is all genetic, people owning guns is dangerous, and dissenting opinions on these topics will get you thrown off college campuses.
No, of course not. It's about control. Any science education program that spends more than minutes on Darwinism (or ID, or creationism, or any other theory of origins) is in my opinion shortchanging the students on solid, verifiable facts.
The struggle is between amoral relativism favored by secular humanists and traditional morality expressed in personal responsibility, the value of human life and the family.
Louisiana passed this law because a significant portion of the electorate does not find the Darwinian narrative persuasive, so it's not as if anything that's added to the school programs will be new to most students. It's *nothing* about education, imo, and everything about competing worldviews.
Well what are the mathematicians worried about? Just give the kids all the ‘facts’ about both math and magic.
Global warming hysteria will fade away and science will be the reason.
Besides, by keeping oil prices high, Gore’s buddies no longer need AGW to create the next economic buble so they can get richer.
Magic isn't math
Why not teach math in math class and magic in magic class?
There is absolutely NO possible way to teach evolution in a religiously, culturally, and politically neutral manner.
1) Teaching science within a godless worldview and godless based curriculum teaches children that God is irrelevant and of peripheral significance to their lives.
2) Teaching children science within a God-centered worldview and God-centered based curriculum violates the freedom of conscience of those parents who are atheists and agnostics.
There is NO possible way for any school, government or private, to have both competing worldviews within in their school. They must choose one: God-centered or godless.
Solution: Begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education.
Definition of Magic:
“The art that purports to control or forecast natural events, effects, or forces by invoking the supernatural.”
Sounds like creationism/ID to me.
When does yours open for business?
Solution: Build institutions where religion is taught and God is worshiped...like churches. Leave science to science class in public schools.
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