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To: Tax-chick
If Darwinism were the key to good science education, surely we’d have the world’s best, after all these years. However ...

Is it really about science versus magic? I personally can comprehend the wonders of science and still lead a rich spiritual life. No. The struggles in academia beginning at daycare is about who gets to form children's hearts and minds. The struggle is between amoral relativism favored by secular humanists and traditional morality expressed in personal responsibility, the value of human life and the family.

7 posted on 07/11/2008 4:48:59 AM PDT by Calusa (Bajo como el Dolar. Subo como el Cafe!)
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To: Calusa
Is it really about science versus magic?

No, of course not. It's about control. Any science education program that spends more than minutes on Darwinism (or ID, or creationism, or any other theory of origins) is in my opinion shortchanging the students on solid, verifiable facts.

The struggle is between amoral relativism favored by secular humanists and traditional morality expressed in personal responsibility, the value of human life and the family.

Louisiana passed this law because a significant portion of the electorate does not find the Darwinian narrative persuasive, so it's not as if anything that's added to the school programs will be new to most students. It's *nothing* about education, imo, and everything about competing worldviews.

12 posted on 07/11/2008 5:03:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. What's *your* ambient temperature?)
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To: Calusa

Evolution is like a nice, big, palm sized rock.
It may be a fact that it is a rock. It may have certain properties that are beneficial,

but it also has the ability to be used as a weapon, and that’s how it’s been used in the past century.

When communists invaded countries in Europe, they didn’t indoctrinate people with the benefits of communism, they taught evolution.

They did this because the “reasonable/logical” conclusions of evolution are that

human life has no inherent value,
there is no need for a deity and therefore no existance of one,
and you should just submit to the deity-like authority of the State, because there is no higher authority.

Fine, it’s “science”, it’s _A_ way to explain observed similarities in species,

but that’s not WHAT IT’S USED FOR.


24 posted on 07/11/2008 6:02:51 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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