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Flex-fuel is a Mac. Gasoline is Windows. Solar/wind is Linux. ($4 gas vanity)

Posted on 04/30/2008 5:08:46 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

Enough is enough.

This poster is opposed mostly, to government mandates.

But it's time for a government mandate to topple the applecart which is driving gas and oil prices ever-skyward. Overdue in fact.

Time for Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians in our government to agree we cannot continue to send our national wealth to terrorists and communists - and simply decide that beginning in 2010, all new autos sold in America, must include some form of a "flex fuel" option.

This will present escalating fuel costs the one thing, which will in fact solve the problem: COMPETITION.


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This morning, would be a good time to start.

So. Let's start.

1 posted on 04/30/2008 5:08:47 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

WHat are nukes? A mainframe?


2 posted on 04/30/2008 5:13:00 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Then there’s compressed natural gas, methanol (from trees and coal), hydrogen, geothermal. I’m sure the Palm OS, Amiga Intuition, fit in somewhere. MS-DOS must be leaded gasoline, I suppose.


3 posted on 04/30/2008 5:15:01 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Solar / wind is Linux? You mean nothing good runs on it?


4 posted on 04/30/2008 5:20:22 AM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Solar/wind is Linux.

Only granola munching geeks can make any use of it?

5 posted on 04/30/2008 5:25:01 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Indiana: "Bring your picture ID to the polls . No ID, No vote.")
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Nope, not even the geeks can use solar/wind to run a car. Unless you want to go 10 mph on the freeway.

For transportation fuels, nothing can beat gasoline/diesel yet, and for the foreseeable future.


6 posted on 04/30/2008 5:30:56 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your door is ajar.


7 posted on 04/30/2008 5:52:04 AM PDT by Blogatron (Brought to you by The American Frog Council - "Frog; The other green meat.")
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To: rightwinggoth

That, and nobody gets paid for using it.

That comparison was really an afterthought. What started the thought, was how flex-fuels are currently being misrepresented as somehow responsible for rising rice prices.

Fact is, rice has nothing to do with ethanol production whatsoever.

It’s “FUD” by those whose interests include keeping us hooked on buying oil from terrorists..


8 posted on 04/30/2008 5:58:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (FLEX FUEL NOW! - send your fuel dollars to Kansas, not to Hugo Chavez)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ethanol is Vista?

The time to drill the crap out of Alaska was 20 years ago. We need to get off the pot and get busy NOW.
It’s a matter of national security and economy.
My God, the jobs that would generate, to say nothing about a reliable fuel source that isn’t tied to the whims of another country that may or may not hate us. Our dollar might actually be worth something if we would do this.
If congress would just let the refineries, the drilling and new nukes be done and built, ah what a wonderful world it might be.
But that’s too freakin’ easy and we don’t want to bum out the left spotted vernal monkey weasel(it’s endangered, y’know.)
Our government is hell bent to destroy this nation. Who needs Al Qada, we ruining ourselves just fine, thank you.


9 posted on 04/30/2008 6:00:16 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
It’s “FUD” by those whose interests include keeping us hooked on buying oil from terrorists..

Nobody is keeping me hooked on anything. I'm master of my own destiny and, so far, I have a choice of what vehicle to buy and what it runs on.

10 posted on 04/30/2008 6:07:04 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - Stupid is as stupid do)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If we built a whole bunch of nuke plants, with the target of having 80% of our electricity be nuke generated, we could then take our massive coal reserves and use coal-to-gas technology to produce synthetic gasoline and tell the Middle East to get lost


11 posted on 04/30/2008 6:16:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." — George Orwell)
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If we built a whole bunch of nuke plants, with the target of having 80% of our electricity be nuke generated, we could then take our massive coal reserves and use coal-to-gas technology to produce synthetic gasoline and tell the Middle East to get lost

Throw in plug-in hybrid cars which can be charged from the nuclear plants' nighttime output. Most people's day-to-day commuting could be purely electric with the gas engine used for longer trips or for the short times you need extra power.

12 posted on 04/30/2008 6:34:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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But it's time for a government mandate to topple the applecart which is driving gas and oil prices ever-skyward. Overdue in fact.

Learn from history. Government mandates on prices decrease supply.

13 posted on 04/30/2008 6:34:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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We should close down every single oil and natural gas power plant in the USA and replace them with a massive number of nuclear and coal power plants. This way, people who heat their homes with oil and natural gas won't have to compete with utility companies who have to purchase large quantities of these fuels. We could also throw more wind power into the mix. The lesson here is clear... using expensive fuels to make power is dumb.

Second, we should drill for oil in Alaska, Florida, California, North Dakota, my backyard, anywhere and everywhere. Screw the NIMBYs and the environmentalists. The goal here should be to not only increase our own oil supply but to replace all the oil we import from the middle east, Venezuela, Russia, and any other country or region that continually gives us grief. Another lesson learned... the USA has gotten nothing positive from all the trillions of dollars we have poured into the Middle East since the 1930s to purchase oil. Nothing.

Third, we need to streamline the sale of fuel in this country. Pick one type of fuel that pollutes less, generates the most energy per gallon and is relatively easy to produce and just sell that everywhere. The government can use its power of eminent domain to purchase any patents or other rights to the process so that it becomes easier to do this.

Lastly, we need to offer tax incentives to car companies to produce at least one type of non-hybrid car that gets a very high mileage. People who want to purchase such cars are often stymied by the fact that these cars are simply not offered for sale here. If we gave car companies an incentive (not a mandate) to sell such vehicles, then maybe more people will show interest in these vehicles.

14 posted on 04/30/2008 6:34:47 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Terrorists are running Canada and Mexico?? Who knew? (#1 & #2 importers of oil to the U.S.)


15 posted on 04/30/2008 6:36:24 AM PDT by webschooner
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Very little petroleum is used to generate electricity. Much of what is used is residual oil and petroleum coke. These are refinery "leftovers" after products like gasoline and diesel have been removed from the crude oil.


16 posted on 04/30/2008 6:38:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Time for Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians in our government to agree we cannot continue to send our national wealth to terrorists and communists - and simply decide that beginning in 2010, all new autos sold in America, must include some form of a "flex fuel" option.

That's Brilliant! All we need to do is pass a law that makes Ethanol a viable source of fuel!

(slaps head) Why didn't I think of that?

17 posted on 04/30/2008 6:39:11 AM PDT by wbill
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Saudi Arabia is the #2 largest importer of crude oil into the US. We import more oil from OPEC than Non-OPEC sources.

U.S. Crude Oil Imports by Country of Origin
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbblpd_a.htm

Mexico’s production and exports have been falling while Saudi Arabia’s have been rising.


18 posted on 04/30/2008 6:40:27 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: pnh102

pnh102 for energy secretary.


19 posted on 04/30/2008 6:41:30 AM PDT by wordsofearnest ("That government is best which governs least")
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To: Dr. Sivana

I changed my mind.

Gasoline is an “IBM Selectric” ... typewriter.

Or perhaps, even a manual typewriter. Slamming down on those keys, to make sure the carbon ribbon, transfers the ink onto that page as you type.

Gasoline is ... a film camera. A bottle of white-out on your desk.

Sold to American consumers who simply need to get to work each day... By terrorists.

That’s the uncomfortable truth, which most FReepers really are trying very deliberatly, to avoid recogizing.

I really do not understand why...


20 posted on 05/02/2008 11:31:31 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (FLEX FUEL NOW! - send your fuel dollars to Kansas, not to Hugo Chavez)
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