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Reconsidering why I Considered even Reconsidered Considering Voting for McCain
opinion | 4-25-2008 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 04/25/2008 9:19:27 AM PDT by Brian_Baldwin

The statement “reconsidering why I considered even reconsidered considering voting for McCain” sort of doesn’t make any sense, but yet it does. Myself, as in millions of other Republicans, have a real dilemma in the behavior of John McCain. I wasn’t for him in the primaries, my candidate of choice lost. There has been a lot of talk about folks being “bitter”, as in the recent comments from that idiot Obama for example (oh, I’m sorry John, I guess I shouldn’t call Obama an “idiot”, should I? After all, you want to run a clean campaign, right?) . . . And perhaps I am being “bitter” in what I feel about the loss of my candidate in the Republican Primary contests, in part I blame the supporters of Huckabee and the outcomes of the Southern States in some cases for giving us a John McCain. But then again, folks should vote for whomever they feel is the best representative of the Republican Party, and I shouldn’t be bitter. Though even today, when I see Huckabee, the feeling I had then and now is, I was looking at a Park Ranger and not a Presidential candidate. He looked like a Park Ranger. He talked like a Park Ranger. He should be a Park Ranger.

Jokes aside.

So the Republicans ended up with John McCain as their selection. I wasn’t happy. But eventually, over time, I figured it was a horse race, and this horse won, and I suppose I should respect the choices of my fellow Republicans, and as more and more of the real face of Obama was revealed to us thanks to the internet and the new media (the "new" media verse the old "news" media), it was a real concern, especially since Obama at the time starting to look like he was going to take the Democratic nomination - this Obama guy with his cult following, his kook preacher whom he has given tens of thousands of dollars to including recent donations to this anti-Semite bigoted nut in the amount of over $20,000 dollars – well, it made me reconsider my first consideration of not voting for John McCain.

Really, it was the preacher thing that even made me change my mind, and to consider that perhaps I SHOULD be voting for Johnny. If the information about Obama, the preacher, the Million Man March stuff, et all, didn’t come out, I probably would have been one of those who was not going to even reconsider any consideration of not considering voting for Juan “12 Million More” McCain.

I guess you can say Reverend Wright saved John McCain.

Considering.

But what was looking like a “done deal” in Obama taking the Democratic nomination, it was starting to look like it actually may not be the case now – and I am praying for a Clinton squeaker simply because I consider Obama an abomination and that perhaps I could do my part over the internet and whatever tools are available to Americans to help in Rush’s “Operation Chaos” to mess up the heads of the enemy. And so I contributed what little I could as an agent of Chaos, both on the internet and in the streets among the Enemy of Democracy which is the Democratic Party. I tried my best to convince Democrats in California and beyond to send money, support and votes to Hillary, that actually she is the electable candidate and so on, and of course Obama’s “Reverend” was always part of the conversation.

And in the meantime I so decided, that I would be a good Republican and vote for John McCain. I reconsidered my consideration of not voting for him.

And then in the press there were new reports about all the money the Democratic candidates have for the Presidential campaign, much more than John McCain has.

I sort of felt sorry for John McCain. At that time, I went to his web site to take a look. I was actually surprise in what I read he had to say about one of my primary concerns which is the invasion of illegal aliens from Mexico who are now fomenting a crime way in the San Francisco Bay Area in which our neighborhoods are plastered with their gang graffiti, car jackings, guns in the face of our citizens and young children being killed by them – and it seemed that on John’s website he had “sort of” a change of heart. He was talking all about he “got the message”, that yes we need to lock down the borders now before there is even any consideration (or reconsideration) about what to do with the millions who are already here. That the criminals need to “go now” and all of that stuff. Even though I knew that after he has “sealed the borders” he was going to then give amnesty to those already here, the way I figured it was it would take some time to “seal the borders” so he would never get around to his amnesty part of the deal latter anyway being that the border is never going to be completely sealed anyway.

Something like that.

But I was sort of impressed.

A little while later, I decided to go onto his website, and then I hit the donate button and sent him money.

I had to fill out a bunch of question regarding the donation, including my home address, phone number, email address, who I work for and such.

Time went by.

There was no acknowledgment from the McCain campaign of the donation.

No emails for example. I mean, when I gave money to other Republicans in the past, for example when I gave money to my choice in the Republican Primary contests, I immediately got a “thank you” email back from them – they had my email. I even got mailers and such.

But there was no email from the McCain camp.

Maybe I gave the wrong email address?

So more than a week goes by – still nothing. No hair off my back, but heck, I was curious and perhaps I DID give the wrong email. So I go back to the same website, “John McCain – It’s Time for Action Tour”, http://johnmccain.com …

I donate even MORE money, and this time I am very, very careful to see if I put in the correct email or not.

Time goes by. Nothing. No return email, nothing.

I check my account, and indeed the donations went through, both of them.

I start to wonder, “What kind of campaign is he running, what kind of organization does he have working for him?” – certainly, it wasn’t “typical” of a candidate’s organization, you would think they would at least utilized technology to automate “thank you’s” and such, even if it is phony.

Then I noticed something on his website.

I went to the “Issues” section of his site. Some of the wording, did it change? I seemed to sound sort or more “liberal” than what I thought I read before. Perhaps I was on some DIFFERENT John McCain website in the past?

Perhaps I am having a senior moment. Emails. Words on a webpage.

But then, McCain is a senior, so I shouldn’t put anyone in any sort of categories. I mean, you KNOW the Democrats are going to use the “he’s too old” argument, and I don’t want to pile on anything just because I might be too old myself to even BE a Republican.

Emails. Words on a webpage. Considerations.

But boy, that Obama guy, he’s been really getting my gander, so – heck! I figured, I’ll STILL vote for John McCain! And you go, Hillary, go girl! After all, McCain going to clean her clock in the general.

Then it happens.

I hear about John McCain, and the “ad” controversy. Some ad run by some Republicans, associating Obama with his lunatic bigot preacher guy, which to me IS an issue, is a REAL BIG issue – I hear and see the ad, and I agree with it. Among “issues”, this is an issue that has damn consequences for our country and who we are about to select to lead our nation. It is very, very important.

And then I see Johnny saying “shame on you” Republicans for running such an ad. What he is saying is that it is “dirty politics” in so many words, and “isn’t talking about the issues”. And he condemns it.

What the?

Is this guy a jerk, or what?

Are you KIDDING me?

Not an issue?

We are NOT suppose to engage in “dirty politics”?

Look. If I want to talk about the preacher guy to Democrats to get them to support Hillary so that McCain can win the election, who is John McCain to tell me anything?

I mean, I am not saying “I represent the John McCain Organization”- I wouldn't get anywhere with Democrats anyway if I came off like that, and because I wouldn’t WANT to be on the “organization” besides, I am just one American making my own decision just like the Huckabee supporters made their decision, and in that “disgraceful” ad the Republicans were not representing John McCain or his “organization” in any official capacity or anything like that.

And Republicans if they have any sense probably SHOULD talk about Obama and his flirtations with the Black Muslims, and “God Damn American” type crowd, and him giving money to these deranged fools, because it IS an issue, it’s a damn big issue, and I don’t CARE if it’s dirty politics because politics is a fight and you get dirty in a fight.

Now I care.

Now I think I might reconsider my considering to reconsider my consideration to even consider voting for John McCain.

You know, the Democrats, they always seem to form a ring of fire and destroy themselves to the benefit of the Republicans. But in this case, I think John McCain, for all the circumstantial luck he has had, he may even outdo the Democrats in self-destruction in the end.

Even if his strategy is to look like he is “Mr. Clean”, well sure he doesn’t HAVE to run any ads telling it like it is about Obama or anyone … sure he can just “talk about the issues” if you will. But he doesn’t have to go out of the way to jump all over others, others who in no way are representing him or his organization, and try to make me, them, or us look bad for what we are doing just because we have very serious concerns about Obama.

There is something about John McCain, he sure knows how to pump up the feelings of all those phony liberal news types and “journalists” to make them feel good, and John McCain sure has a knack of trying, and succeeding, in making folks like me feel bad or insulting us, and it really makes me reconsider any considerations of him at all.

Can I get my donations back?


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KEYWORDS: amnesty; immigration; manchuriancandidate; mccain
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1 posted on 04/25/2008 9:19:27 AM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Boy I wish Duncan Hunter were in the race.


2 posted on 04/25/2008 9:29:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Though even today, when I see Huckabee, the feeling I had then and now is, I was looking at a Park Ranger and not a Presidential candidate. He looked like a Park Ranger. He talked like a Park Ranger. He should be a Park Ranger.

That's priceless!

3 posted on 04/25/2008 9:29:18 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Now I think I might reconsider my considering to reconsider my consideration to even consider voting for John McCain.

You could have saved yourself "considerable" agony by doing what I did at the first mention of his name as a possible POTUS candidate ............................



NEVER considered him for even one nanosecond!



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4 posted on 04/25/2008 9:29:51 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

John...are you logged in?

(sorry...I just couldn’t resist. Just teasing...:)


5 posted on 04/25/2008 9:30:06 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Boy I wish Duncan Hunter were in the race.

He is in my mind. I will be writing in his name!

6 posted on 04/25/2008 9:30:42 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Steal this pic:

7 posted on 04/25/2008 9:31:51 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I have much the same feelings.

If McCain wants to be “above the fray” and not piss the base off, he needs to just shut up.

He also needs to get conservatives around him.

He further needs to learn that his beloved media is going to portray him as: a crook (Keating 5), too old, and too conservative -— no matter how liberal he really is.

He might as well be a conservative, since they are going to hate him anyway.


8 posted on 04/25/2008 9:34:38 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: evets

So, Senator McCain, who will you vote for in the Primary...Hillary or Barack?


9 posted on 04/25/2008 9:35:28 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I feel your pain.
Your post pretty much sums up what a lot of us think.

I miss Fred.


10 posted on 04/25/2008 9:35:37 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Obama's new campaign song: "I Put a Spell on You" by Screamin' Jay Hawkins)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Funny snide comments about the Huckster aside, the author hasn't a clue about good political strategy. By denouncing the ad, McCain draws attention to it. Hence the ad gets national attention instead of just local attention. His denunciation doesn't stop the ad from running, and so it still damages Obama. Finally, by distancing himself from the ad, McCain distances himself from whatever blowback might come from the ad and preserves his clean image.

McCain did exactly what he should have done. Denouncing the ad was very smart political strategy.

It's a pitty so many pubbies are to naive to see it.

11 posted on 04/25/2008 9:36:23 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Brian_Baldwin

“Though even today, when I see Huckabee, the feeling I had then and now is, I was looking at a Park Ranger and not a Presidential candidate. He looked like a Park Ranger. He talked like a Park Ranger. He should be a Park Ranger.”

I was thinking more like air-conditioner repairman, but I can respect other views.


12 posted on 04/25/2008 9:36:28 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

McCain doesn’t need your vote to beat Obama. All Freepers could boycott him and it wouldn’t matter. Old white people, the millions of them, will not vote for Obama and they think McCain is a more than acceptable alternative.


13 posted on 04/25/2008 9:37:16 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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“I start to wonder, “What kind of campaign is he running, what kind of organization does he have working for him?””

I understand McCAin didn’t even put himself on the Oregon Ballot. I understand little about what he does.

And Senator John McCain says Americans can’t handle farm work, even if it pays them $50 an hour.

Of all those advocating a guest worker amnesty program, few are as outspoken as Senator John McCain. We have reported here how the senator told leering construction workers that there are plenty of jobs that Americans won’t and can’t do.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: “ My friends, I’ll offer anybody here $50 an hour if you’ll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for whole season. So — OK? Sign up. OK. When you sign up — you sign up, and you’ll be there for the whole season. The whole season, OK? Not just one day. Because you can’t do it, my friend. Sign up.”

(END VIDEO CLIP)

DOBBS: Can’t do it, eh? Well, Project USA has made it possible for to you apply for one of those $50 an hour McCain and company lettuce picking jobs. In response to the question, “Are you qualified?” You can check, “Yes, I am an American,” “Yes, I am an illegal alien,” or, “Yes, I’m a qualified engineer interested in automating lettuce picking, and thanks to the H1-B cheap human import program you support, I’m unemployed, too.”

You can also fill out your application online at projectusa.org. Project USA will deliver those personally to Senator McCain, I’m told.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/13/ldt.01.html
Here he insists his amnesty will pass:

BASH: Tragedy, these senators say, because they all still agree on a compromise they thought they would never find on a highly controversial issue, putting millions of illegal immigrants on a path to citizenship.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: That agreement would get 65 or 70 votes. And it’s not going away.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/07/ldt.01.html

His comments about his bad amnesty bill.

BASH: Key supporters like Senator John McCain admit it’s not perfect.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: Sure, there’s some complexities associated with it, but as compared with the status quo it’s nirvana.

MCCAIN: Every immigration expert that I know of say this is a workable solution.

DAN STEIN, FED. FOR AMERICAN IMMIGRATION REFORM: This is a workable solution if your goal is to destroy U.S. immigration enforcement for the next 30 years. Nothing about this compromise is workable.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/06/ldt.01.html


14 posted on 04/25/2008 9:39:55 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Duncan Hunter just might be my write in candidate.

Wright?

Right.


15 posted on 04/25/2008 9:48:30 AM PDT by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
McCain is determined to undermine his natural base of support & offer his throat to the loonies in the other party.

I've never seen anything like it - there's got to be more to this than meets the eye.

16 posted on 04/25/2008 9:48:52 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ozark hilljilly
I feel your pain. Your post pretty much sums up what a lot of us think. I miss Fred.

Fred may have been the last really decent conservative that will bother trying to become President. After the marginalization and near blackout of his campaign by MSM plus all the propaganda that was regurgitated by some folks right here I could understand why Fred and other like him, Duncan and Tom, would refuse to run. Hell, I would refuse to step off a 300 foot cliff too.

17 posted on 04/25/2008 9:49:22 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

If McCain becomes an advocate of smaller, less intrusive government and makes restoring the integrity of the Constitution a top priority, I will consider voting for him. If he doesn’t, I won’t.


18 posted on 04/25/2008 9:50:47 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Brian_Baldwin
>folks should vote for whomever they feel is the best representative of the Republican Party,

Sorry but my bicycle doesn't stop there.

Long ago, I was a member of the Democrat party, when it was championing itself as the party of the working man.”
Remember that?

Well the democrat party left me behind long, long ago when it morphed into not the party of the working man, but

“the party of the man who doesn't work.”

The GOP is leaving me in the dust, along with every single other Conservative here as it careens ever farther leftward, from amnesty to global Warming to closing GITMO, etc, and the Democrat party is becoming ever MORE leftward to differentiate itself from the GOP.
Half of the Dems are outright kooks, nuts and Socialists.

I will not vote for any liberal trash, no matter what party initial is after their name.
This will be the first election since Reagan that I did not vote or contribute one dime to the GOP, instead contributing directly to different Conservatives that I admire.

John McCain's new campaign slogan:

"no back without a knife in it”

His bumper sticker:

Vote McCain: he doesn't suck as much as the other guy.

Sorry John.

19 posted on 04/25/2008 9:51:18 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: curiosity
McCain did exactly what he should have done. Denouncing the ad was very smart political strategy. It's a pitty so many pubbies are to naive to see it.

You think that stabbing your most loyal supporters in the back, on the most important issue facing this country [ethnic separatism and our coming demographic doom] is "very smart political strategy"?

It might be "very smart" for the political career of John McCain in the very short term [when measured in terms of weeks - although it's not going to be "very smart" in the short term between now and Tuesday, November 4, 2008], but, in the long term, it's absolutely disastrous for the GOP and the nation as a whole.

Of course, McCain will be dead of melanoma circa 2012 or 2015, so what does he care about the rest of us who are left with the demographic and socio-political disaster that he and the people of his generation left us saddled with?

20 posted on 04/25/2008 9:52:33 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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