Posted on 02/07/2008 4:18:27 PM PST by wagglebee
To all of you FRiberals out there, and that means all of you Rooty Rooters and Romneyites, it's your fault that the GOP is almost for certain stuck with McCain as the nominee. Now, I don't mean those of you who voted for Romney on Super Tuesday in an effort to split the vote, but the rest of you are culpable.
Conservative FReepers have spent the past year listening to the likes of you tell us that conservatives have "had their foot on the neck" of the GOP for too long. We were told that all that mattered was someone who was strong on terror. We were told that we needed someone with strong name recognition. We were told that generally the GOP decides whose "turn it is" and then nominates that person. We were told that we needed someone who can get independent votes. We were told that ANY Republican would nominate strict constructionists to the Federal bench. We were told that winning was all that mattered.
Now, some of you who said this were supporting Rooty, some of you were supporting Romney. But you were all pretty much saying the same thing: you preferred your candidates to a conservative. Some of you even got so upset with conservative FReepers that you ran away to start a RINO forum
Well, guess what? You were successful, though not in the way you thought you would be. It looks like it's McCain's "turn." But don't worry, McCain is a war hero and strong on terrorism (as long as we don't actually take terrorists into custody or try to keep them from crossing into the United States through open borders), he says he can get independents to vote for him, he says he will appoint constructionists, and most important, he has name recognition.
So, if your real agenda was to destroy the GOP, you very well may have succeeded. If your agenda was to create a "Democrat Light" party, you have almost certainly succeeded. If your agenda was to keep the Democrats out of the White House, you have probably failed.
But regardless of what your agenda was, you have harmed the United States of America -- I just hope it's not permanent.
Oh, what a freekin drama queen! How about some culpability in the RNC and the beltway insiders that pour-out their scorn on us who hold conservative opinions? How about a Congress controlled by Republicans, many claiming to be fiscal and social cons, who rather than forward a conservative agenda, propagated their own aggrandizement?
And, as a minority party, continue to do so?
How about a President who professed his faith and con fiscal values only to take us to the cleaners with the aid of the opposing party; a President who couldn’t put two words together in defense of conservative issues and concerns.
How about a self-defeating cadre of anonymous posters who all claim to be such staunch conservatives who propagate lies on this and other websites hourly? And you’re not in the running for councilman, state rep., governor, why again?
Lots of hot air and little action. Keystrokes are cheap and anonymous. So, go ahead and puff your cheeks like the adders so many of you seem to be. SCREAMING will not get you noticed. May I suggest rereading a few passages from the Bible on personal behavior and then get back to me. Nevermind. Like a minor planet in some distant galaxy I’ll not pass this way again (at least in your lifetime). Have fun headbangers!
I live and vote in Florida. Just what the hell do you think I was supposed to do? Vote for Hunter? No, wait... he dropped out. Vote for Thompson? No, wait... he dropped out the week before.
By the time we got our chance, Romney was the only plausible conservative left.
So screw you and the Prius Hybrid you rode in on.
I started the race supporting Mr. Hunter. He had some flaws, but I think he's a good man. In terms of policy, he would have made a good president. In terms of his ability to handle the executive responsibilities of the office, I'm not sure. In any case, he never attracted more than a few percent of the voters.
When I realized that Mr. Hunter had no chance, I switched my support to Mr. Romney. Mitt Romney's record isn't perfect, but his excuses for his flaws were far better than Fred Thomson's excuses for his flaws. I know that Mr. Romney could have handled the executive duties of the presidency. I'm not certain whether Mr. Thompson could have. Furthermore, at the time that I made the switch, Mr. Thompson's campaign was obviously going to be a failure. If we were going to stop McCain at that time, the only choice was Mitt Romney. I'm proud of my decision to support Mitt Romney.
We're stuck with McCain for several reasons.
First, our most likely conservative from about 2005 until November 2006 was George Allen. When people asked themselves, "Who's likely to be the conservative candidate for the GOP?" they most often thought of George Allen. If he hadn't seemingly been in the position to take most of the conservative support, maybe someone else would have laid the ground work for a campaign starting in 2005. Planning a presidential campaign takes time, and a good conservative governor or ex-governor would have needed to be planning in early 2006. No one made the effort, and by the time that the Allen campaign crashed and burned, no one else was ready to fill that spot.
A second reason is that the media, particularly the Republican media, anointed Rudy Giuliani too early. Strangely enough, they not only ruined other campaigns, but they ended up ruining Giuliani's campaign by this premature coronation. If Rudy Giuliani hadn't seemed poised to take the whole thing in early 2007, many of us would have waited much longer to start looking for candidates to support. I dind't want to think about presidential politics in early 2007, but I began following those threads because I wanted to stop Rudy Giuliani. Once I started following the threads, I started picking candidates. If the whole process hadn't been rushed, maybe someone else would have had time to join the race.
Ultimately, our problem this year is that we didn't have any candidate who could unite more than about forty percent of the party. Rudy Giuliani could never have gained the support of social conservatives or Second Amendment conservatives. Mitt Romney could never overcome positions he had to take in order to run in a liberal state and the religious bigotry of those who don't want Mormons in our society. Fred Thompson started as the blank page on which conservatives projected their hopes, but was eventually seen as a good guy who just had no campaign. Mike Huckabee has a very narrow appeal as a candidate in spite of his ability as a speaker. The members of the House face the uphill battle that all House members face. None of these candidates was particularly bad, but none were particularly good.
Bill
Who do you blame for the crappy compaigns of Hunter & Thompson?
Well, this year all 3 of the major candidates ARE senators. (But of course you already knew that!) We “get” to vote for a senator on the dim side with a D after his/her name, or to vote for a senator on the Republican side with a D after his name. Wheeee! Some choice.
There is nothing worst than a liberal Freeper.
So what now? We can wale an gnash our teeth for a day, but we had better have a plan.
For me and mine, first and foremost we will concentrate on living our lives according to God’s will. I fear that our country has already turned a dark corner, and perhaps it did so long ago. It might be to late to stop where we are going, but like the Irish monks perhaps we can build a small foundation for the day when the country wakes up. Or perhaps when the states that are built from the ashes of the American Republic (for that is what is dying this election) begin to try to rebuild.
The primary here in Louisiana is this upcoming Saturday. If Fred is still on the ballot I will vote for him. If he is not I will vote for Mitt.
The defense of innocent life has always been the first factor in my vote, and here is where I am at a quandary for the Nov. General election:
McPain is awful but he is Pro-Life to a certain degree, though I know about his many compromises. So with regards to Supreme Court appointments: w Obama/Hildabeast we get more Justice Ginsberg's and with McPain probably more Kennedy's which would be a step up as a Ginsberg replacement. I realize we may also get more Souters w McPain.
Bottom Line:
Obama/Hildabeast = NO hope for unborn babies
McPain = some slight possible hope for unborn babies
Any thoughts?
PING to thread and would like comments on my post 128
I have no real hope that McCain would appoint any judges to the USSC who would overturn abortion.
He has playing for the other team for sometime now. Remember, it was suggested that he would be the running mate for Kerry.
Somewhere, McCain got a lot of money and PR real fast.
Wish I knew from where.
Not the worst idea.
Huckabee is FAR more pro-life than McCain, so I will support him.
McCain doesn’t have a strong enough passion for the life issue, and wanted to weaken the pro-life plank in the Republican platform, according to the late Congressman Henry Hyde, but is more pro-life than Hillary or Obama, so IF he is the nominee, I will hold my nose and vote for him.
I will use my energy and votes to save as many babies as I can.
P.S. What a depressing mess we are in.
To put the blame on certain people at FR is ridiculous and non productive.
“If Fred is still on the ballot I will vote for him. If he is not I will vote for Mitt.”
Why would you vote for Mitt if Fred isn’t on the ballot? If the pro-life issue is important to you, as you say it is (it is for me too), why not vote for Huckabee who has always been pro-life instead of Mitt who has not always been pro-life?
Beautiful. Anyone who isn’t in lockstep with your view of things is a “FRiberal.”
This is the most pouty post I have ever had the displeasure of reading on FR. Grow up.
Well, you and I know, TA, they’ve got it completely backwards once again. It’s a forest through the tree thing. Hopeless.
Backwards is right, RG. Please see my post #21.
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