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1 posted on 01/07/2008 12:07:29 AM PST by Swordmaker
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Office for Mac documents from versions 4, 5, 6, 98, X, and 2004 WILL NOT BE READABLE on the latest Microsoft Office or in the Windows version... PING!

Oh, and neither will the older Windows versions be readable in the latest Windows Office...

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 01/07/2008 12:12:45 AM PST by Swordmaker (We can fix this, but you're gonna need a butter knife, a roll of duct tape, and a car battery.)
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I’m the average user who is now very nervous. I have Word 6.0 for all my business documents.


3 posted on 01/07/2008 12:14:27 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Swordmaker

bfl


4 posted on 01/07/2008 12:20:21 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Swordmaker; EDINVA
Hang on a minute.

I just read the Microsoft article, and I think the ZDnet article got it wrong.

It appears to me that the ZD author saw the entire list of "Word File Versions", and ASSUMED that they were ALL being blocked.

THIS IS NOT TRUE, at least as I read the Microsoft article.

What it looks like to me is that they have blocked files created with versions OLDER THAN 97. The table of -all- file type codes is near the bottom of the Microsoft page. It is NOT a list of blocked versions!

Read this and see what you think:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938810

6 posted on 01/07/2008 12:35:26 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Ping


7 posted on 01/07/2008 12:41:12 AM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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'Draconian' Microsoft promises to make Office work again
Update Microsoft has threatened to release a fix for an Office 2003 update that may well have the productivity suite work as intended once again.

As reported earlier Service Pack 3 for Office takes the unprecedented step of barring access to files created with earlier versions of the product. Install the Service Pack and your stash of documents (the ones you may be keeping for legal reasons) are suddenly just so much wasted disk and tape space.

We are talking seriously restrictive measures here. Office offers no warnings, the SP cannot be rolled back and there are no options that an average end-user can take to fix the problem.

Yes, that does indeed mean the lack of a dialog box saying:

"I am a sentient human being. I can assess risk. I can spell ‘responsibility’ and even, occasionally, assume it. I really, really want/need to open this old Word document. So go ahead, make my day.”

Just:

Screenshot of Office warning

It's not a bug . . . .

Microsoft did issue a registry hack but covered it with dire warnings about how dangerous hacking the registry can be.

The word draconian seemed appropriate, so we used it with Reed Shaffner, Microsoft Office Worldwide Product Manager. Very disarmingly, he agreed.

“Yes, I agree, it was too draconian.” he said. We hate it when Product Managers do that.

He then went on to say that in response to the user feedback, Microsoft plans to issue a new fix in the very near future. The fix will come in the form of a link that you can follow which will hack (sorry, modify) your registry for you so that the problem goes away. And we'll be providing that link as soon as possible.

Still, Shaffner was at pains to point out that using the fix leaves the machine open to the very vulnerability that the measure was designed to stop, so Microsoft would still advise people not to do this unless they have a very good reason.

He also supplied more information about the vulnerability. He said that the problem wasn’t in the file format as such; it was in the code that is used to parse these earlier files. We were just about to point out that this was Microsoft’s code (and, therefore Microsoft’s fault) but he beat us to it. We hate it when they do that as well.

So, zero out of ten for the heavy handed SP but grudging respect for actually listening to users and fixing the problem. ®

Update

Since we filed this, Microsoft has in fact managed to post the Office fixes. Travel over to this support site and look for the "How to enable blocked file types" heading.

UnblockWord.reg. Lovely.


27 posted on 01/07/2008 5:35:01 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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These problems might require that you reinstall the operating system.

No. These problems might require you to simply import the registry copy that you exported before you started doing any editing on the Registry.
Or at the very worst, restore that image you made of your system last night.
You did export the Registry and take a snapshot of your system, didn't you?

But, in general, it sucks that MS has seen fit to remove this backwards compatibility. Security reasons? Yah. right.

30 posted on 01/07/2008 6:58:25 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great spirits will always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds.)
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To: Swordmaker

While MS should making turning the default off easier their explanation is fine. For years people have harped that MS needs to be more secure out of the box and now that they are taking steps towards that people complain again..


39 posted on 01/07/2008 8:18:07 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Swordmaker

Ah the micro-brains from micro-soft strike again!


41 posted on 01/07/2008 10:13:32 AM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m using Office 2002 SP1 on my Dells.
They came w/ the 2003 upgrade but I’ve never loaded it.
Haven’t seen 2002 mentioned so I guess I’m OK.

Neo Office is the Office program for a Mac?

I’d like to put an Office program on my Mac.


42 posted on 01/07/2008 1:34:01 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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