Guiliani ineligible for presidency per the 13th Amendment?

EEE | 24 DECEMBER 2007 | EEE

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

13TH AMENDMENT: "If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them."

Rudy was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II on Feburary 13th, 2002.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Honorary title, it doesn’t count.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Aw damnit! Why did you have to ruin my daydream?

[Reagan Man]

If it only was that easy.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

We don’t have to look that far into the Amendments to find grounds for disqualification.

The Second will do.

Comprehensive List of Handguns *NOT* Outlawed by Mayor Rudy Giuliani
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806614/posts

[GAB-1955]

A knighthood is not a title of nobility. A knight is an armed commoner. Giuliani isn’t even the first American to be knighted; Nimitz was knighted before him.

[ConorMacNessa]

I believe Schwartzkopf was knighted, too

[Jet Jaguar]

You should include Romney as well.

[Ronin]

Honorary title, and there has been a rather large number of precedents, including (if I am not mistaking) Presidents Eisenhower, Reagan and Bush.

[Calpernia]

>>>or retain any title of nobility or honour

It includes honorary.

[Calpernia]

It includes honorary.

[Calpernia]

Still a title.

[decal]

So is “Mister” - you can’t put “Sir” in front of your name until you renounce American citizenship, like Sir Yehudi Menuhin did.

[Ronin]

That’s your interpretationm, however apparently there are countervailing factors you are not aware of.

As I said, Eisenhower, Reagan and H.W. Bush have all received the same awards, and in Ike’s case, I am almost certain he received it before he was elected.

That being the case, I don’t think you are going to generate much enthusiasm with this “gotcha”.

[quantim]

‘Sir’ Ronald Wilson Reagan was also knighted by the same Queen in 1989. Do the math.

[Calpernia]

I’ve no idea what you mean.

[Calpernia]

It isn’t my interpretation. And anyone else doing it doesn’t mean it doesn’t violate the amendment. Knighthood is a title of honor.

http://www.umd.umich.edu/casl/hum/eng/classes/434/geweb/landelius2.htm
Titles of Honor: Knights and Baronets

[Aliska]

I won't vote for any Dems because of their pro-ABORTION stance aka pro choice and other life issues, yeah, I've been told shouldn't vote single issue. Too bad, it's not JUST that but MAINLY that. I'm just kind of stubborn that way. And I'm not stupid enough to suppose that if those millions of aborted babies could have lived and grown up to vote, a significant number of those would vote Dem because that's just the way things work.

If Giuliani is the nominee, I don't think I can in good conscience vote for him because it would be hypocritical and possibly worse.

If enough of us believe this way, will we be to blame for handing Hillery, Obama or Edwards the presidency?

[Political Junkie Too]

Wouldn't it be something if this is the ONLY immigration law that people are willing to enforce?

-PJ

[stylin19a]

hm....might this not apply to cold-cash jefferson ?