[SWAMPSNIPER]

Honorary title, it doesn’t count.

[Reagan Man]

If it only was that easy.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

We don’t have to look that far into the Amendments to find grounds for disqualification.

The Second will do.

Comprehensive List of Handguns *NOT* Outlawed by Mayor Rudy Giuliani
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806614/posts

[Ronin]

Honorary title, and there has been a rather large number of precedents, including (if I am not mistaking) Presidents Eisenhower, Reagan and Bush.

[quantim]

‘Sir’ Ronald Wilson Reagan was also knighted by the same Queen in 1989. Do the math.

[Aliska]

I won't vote for any Dems because of their pro-ABORTION stance aka pro choice and other life issues, yeah, I've been told shouldn't vote single issue. Too bad, it's not JUST that but MAINLY that. I'm just kind of stubborn that way. And I'm not stupid enough to suppose that if those millions of aborted babies could have lived and grown up to vote, a significant number of those would vote Dem because that's just the way things work.

If Giuliani is the nominee, I don't think I can in good conscience vote for him because it would be hypocritical and possibly worse.

If enough of us believe this way, will we be to blame for handing Hillery, Obama or Edwards the presidency?

[Political Junkie Too]

Wouldn't it be something if this is the ONLY immigration law that people are willing to enforce?

-PJ

[stylin19a]

hm....might this not apply to cold-cash jefferson ?

[Christopher Lincoln]

The text you cite was proposed an an amendment by Congress, but not ratified. The Thirteenth Amendment is quite different.

[tlb]

Americans accepting honorary knighthoods:

* General Tommy Franks KBE 2004
* Reverend Billy Graham KBE 2001
* General Wesley Clark KBE 2000
* Bob Hope KBE 1998
* George Bush GCB 1993
* General Colin Powell KCB 1993
* General Norman Schwarzkopf KCB 1993
* Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft KBE 1993
* Ronald Reagan GCB 1989
* J. Edgar Hoover KBE 1950
* Dwight D. Eisenhower GCB 1945
* General George C. Marshall GCB 1945
* General George S. Patton GCB 1945
* Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitiz GCB 1945
* General Alexander Vandegrift KBE 1942

I think Ike’s honor in 1945 pretty conclusively answers the question. But the question, rather Clintonian isn’t it? On a point you aren’t certain you can win on the merits, find some loophole.

Anyway, Rudy seems in pretty good company.

[freespirited]

I think this has already neem ruled on. Honorary knighthood is not included within the meaning of the language; it’s more akin to being named Employee of the Month.

[ReignOfError]

That is not the thirteenth amendment. The thirteenth amendment abolished slavery. What you're quoting is a proposed amendment that was never adopted.

It was erroneously printed as part of the Constitution in some early 19th century texts, an error that has launched a thousand conspiracy theories, because in the mind of a conspiracy theorist anything that appears once and doesn't appear later has been "suppressed" or "whitewashed" or "covered up."

Some of the conspiracy loons even claim that the term "esquire" constitutes a title of nobility, which it doesn't, so any lawyer is constitutionally ineligible to hold office, based on a foreign title he doesn't hold and a constitutional provision that isn't there.

I couldn't make this stuff up.

As far as royal orders go, the Brits consider them real, but the US considers them honorary. A short list of Americans who have been awarded various British orders: Gen. Wesley Clark, Bob Hope, Gen. Norman Schwartzkopf, Gen. Colin Powell, President George H.W. Bush. President Ronald Reagan, Former SecDef Caspar Weinberger, Oil tycoon John Paul Getty, Orchestra conductor (and Woody Allen's father-in-law) Andre Previn, former House speaker Tom Foley, former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan, and Microsoft founder Bill Gates.

That's just going back less than a decade.

[tear gas]

Rudy forfeited his right to seek the presidency when he chose to be a coward and dodge the draft.