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As ruling looms, Microsoft drowns in documentation
MarketWatch ^ | Dec. 18, 2007 6:14 p.m. EST | John Letzing, MarketWatch

Posted on 12/19/2007 9:56:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Microsoft Corp. is fast becoming engulfed in the technical mapping of its own products, even as a judge's decision looms on whether to extend antitrust restrictions placed on the company for an additional five years.

According to a status report filed by Microsoft on Monday with the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, the number of outstanding technical issues requiring documentation jumped nearly 60% from the end of October to the end of November.

Such technical documentation is demanded of Microsoft, with the aim of making its market-dominating software products more compatible with those of competitors.

The Redmond, Wash.-based software giant nearly has tripled the number of employees dedicated to such technical documentation, to 600, according to the status report. In June, Microsoft told MarketWatch it had about 220 employees dedicated to the project.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: antitrust; lowqualitycrap; microsoft

1 posted on 12/19/2007 9:56:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 12/19/2007 9:57:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

3 posted on 12/19/2007 10:08:45 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wait a minute. We’re getting down to the wire on the decision to extend the order and the amount of information required is almost doubled within a month when this has been ongoing for years. Sounds like somebody is playing dirty to me.


4 posted on 12/19/2007 11:09:04 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Funny, in the end this might actually help Microsoft.

That this is so difficult shows that Microsoft never fully documented their APIs at all. Now their internal people will have them to work with.


5 posted on 12/19/2007 11:41:46 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Still Thinking
Well there is this new happening:

Groklaw
Opera Files Antitrust Complaint Against Microsoft with EU Commission - Updated
Thursday, December 13 2007 @ 11:07 AM EST

6 posted on 12/19/2007 11:42:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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7 posted on 12/19/2007 11:52:20 AM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: HAL9000

ROFL!


8 posted on 12/19/2007 12:13:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: antiRepublicrat; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce
> ...Microsoft never fully documented their APIs at all. Now their internal people will have them to work with.

Correct -- and that's a good thing. Maybe they won't b!tch it up so badly if they know where they're aiming for. Maybe.

Of course, this line from the article is bullcrap:

> ...the aim of making its market-dominating software products more compatible with those of competitors.

No, documenting the APIs doesn't "make software products more compatible with competition" -- that would require changing the software products. I don't think anybody is requiring changes in the code, and this is not a source release requirement. Microsoft must DOCUMENT how to call functions, and only at a fairly high level, too. What's the big freakin' deal?

Oh I know. Microsoft is embarrassed to have to show the competition how lame, redundant, spurious, confused, and bogus its APIs really are...

9 posted on 12/19/2007 12:57:56 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
I don't think anybody is requiring changes in the code, and this is not a source release requirement. Microsoft must DOCUMENT how to call functions, and only at a fairly high level, too. What's the big freakin' deal?

The claim is that Microsoft has lots of APIs that nobody else knows about. Thus their products can use the APIs to get better functionality than the competition. So if Microsoft makes monopoly-power Client A and someone else makes Server B, Microsoft will have an unfair advantage when they release Server C that functions better with A than B does because it uses the secret APIs (and any variation on that theme).

10 posted on 12/19/2007 1:15:56 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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> The claim is that Microsoft has lots of APIs that nobody else knows about. Thus their products can use the APIs to get better functionality than the competition.

Ah, yes... "DOS ain't done until Lotus won't run." The SOBs never change.

Nor do their apologists. ;-)

Of course, they're increasingly subtle about it these days. Microsoft's compatibility testing is legendary, and deserves praise, Vista notwithstanding.

OTOH, it's perfectly clear that WHEN THEY WANT TO DO SO, they cut the competition off at the knees using their proprietary secret advantage.

11 posted on 12/19/2007 3:55:10 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The claim is that Microsoft has lots of APIs that nobody else knows about. Thus their products can use the APIs to get better functionality than the competition. So if Microsoft makes monopoly-power Client A and someone else makes Server B, Microsoft will have an unfair advantage when they release Server C that functions better with A than B does because it uses the secret APIs (and any variation on that theme).

A variation of this allegation has been made that doesn't even involve Microsoft apps. Say third party vendor X agrees not to sell a Linux version of their app. Then they are given access to the "secret" calls that make their Windows product work better than one from some other less cooperative vendor who is forced to code to the published API.

12 posted on 12/19/2007 4:48:22 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: dayglored
Microsoft's compatibility testing is legendary, and deserves praise, Vista notwithstanding.

I remember when NT code was leaked. People who reviewed it said it was full of application-specific hacks. Good that they do this for compatibility, bad that they do it for stability and clean code. But they were in a corner -- if an app didn't work, people blamed the OS instead of the app. Unfortunately the solution was a PR one, not a technical one.

But I do remember something about the early days of the browser wars, where Microsoft shipped a modified DLL with a version of IE that was also required by Netscape, and the new DLL broke Netscape.

13 posted on 12/19/2007 5:12:29 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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