Teacher in Teen Sex Case Arrested Again

AP ^ | 12-05-07 | Mitch Stacy

[Snickering Hound]

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — A former teacher serving house arrest for having sex with a 14-year-old student was arrested on charges of violating her probation, state records show.

According to a Department of Corrections report, Debra Lafave discussed her personal life and other subjects with a teenage waitress at a restaurant where both worked. One of the terms of her probation was that she was not allowed to have unsupervised contact with minors without permission.

Lafave, 26, is serving three years of house arrest and seven years of probation after pleading guilty to having sex with the boy in a classroom and her home in June 2004.

She was arrested Tuesday morning and released from jail on her promise to appear in court. It was not immediately clear when that hearing would occur.

Defense attorney John Fitzgibbons said he was disappointed that Lafave's probation officer ordered her arrest for what he called an "insignificant" violation. He said Lafave and the 17-year-old girl had a "typical workplace conversation that women have with their women colleagues."

"It was a workplace friendship — no more, no less," he said.

State attorney's office spokeswoman Pam Bondi said prosecutors would not comment on Lafave's arrest until the hearing.

Probation records show Lafave worked at a Tampa-area restaurant until last month, when her probation officer ordered her to quit. She now works as a receptionist at her mother's barbershop.

Fitzgibbons said he and his client were surprised by the arrest. "I don't think anyone felt this was a huge issue," he said.

He said Lafave has done so well on her first two years of house arrest that he plans to ask a judge to convert the final year to straight probation, which is less restrictive.

Other terms of her probation include sex offender treatment, random drug testing and 200 hours of community service, which she has completed.

Lafave pleaded guilty to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery in November 2005. She could face up to 15 years in prison for a probation violation.

[gathersnomoss]

Now working as a carpet inspector. This hotty is never at a loss for a date.

[Atlantic Bridge]

Florida definition of statutory rape. § 794. 05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors if someone age 24 or older engages in sexual activity with someone age 16 or 17. Penalty - Up to 15 years in prison

You guys have hard laws. In Germany i.e. it is perfectly legal to have consensual sex with someone who is 16 and older. In the legal practice it is sometimes okay to have consensual sex with a girl/boy who is 14 and older, since the prosecutors usually only become active if the parents of the teenager start a lawsuit. The laws in Europe are not that different btw.

Best regards from Europe!

A.B.

A card from Wikipedia:

As we see are the real child molesters in Islamic countries. It has tradition. Their so called "prophet" Muhammad already raped 9 year old girls.

[driftdiver]

“I simply said that (rightly or wrongly) most teenage boys would welcome being seduced by a blue-eyed blonde woman of statuesque proportions, and I think most men on this forum would agree with me.”

Many probably would or at least they would say they would. Many might also find her a little strange.

[driftdiver]

” JAWOHL! ! !

ALLES IN ORDNUNG ! ! ! !”

Ahh so you’re equating my condemnation of child rape with being a nazi. Yet another class act on FR.

[Sybeck1]

Where is Hugh Hefner when you need him?

[driftdiver]

“You guys have hard laws. In Germany i.e. it is perfectly legal to have consensual sex with someone who is 16 and older. In the legal practice it is sometimes okay to have consensual sex with a girl/boy who is 14 and older, since the prosecutors usually only become active if the parents of the teenager start a lawsuit. The laws in Europe are not that different btw.”

The laws aren’t hard. They are designed to keep young adults from preying on children. For example if one kid is 16 and the other is 18 then theres no crime unless Dad finds out. Of course most states have an age where the child cannot consent regardless of the age of the partner.

As previously stated is is legal if the couple is married at very young ages. That requires parental permission and is rarely done. 40-50 years ago it was much more common for 14-15 year olds to be married. Again in those cases the sex was between married people and not casual by a young adult using her position of authority to prey upon those placed in her care.

[rednesss]

"Ahh so you’re equating my condemnation of child rape with being a nazi. Yet another class act on FR."

Ahhh, so now your debating like a libtard democrat, example, if I say I'm not in favor of hate-crime laws, then I must hate black people and belong to the KKK. You can't disagree with someone without being for something completely different that is abhorrent.

[Atlantic Bridge]

The laws aren’t hard. They are designed to keep young adults from preying on children. For example if one kid is 16 and the other is 18 then theres no crime unless Dad finds out. Of course most states have an age where the child cannot consent regardless of the age of the partner. As previously stated is is legal if the couple is married at very young ages. That requires parental permission and is rarely done. 40-50 years ago it was much more common for 14-15 year olds to be married. Again in those cases the sex was between married people and not casual by a young adult using her position of authority to prey upon those placed in her care.

It might have to do with my European socialization, but I can not find anything wrong with i.e. a 16 and a 18 year old person having consensual sex. No matter if Dad finds out or not and no matter if they are married or not. They are old enough to be responsible on their own, while I find that 14 years (or even younger) for having sexual a relationship is clearly too young. No matter if the couple is married or not. Too early marriage is BS anyway since a wedding supposes a certain grade of maturity.

Our European laws are also designed to protect kids from drooling perverts, but they do not restrict young adults in their natural rights (I do not refer to the case in the discussion since I know not enough about it).

[rednesss]

Well it's nice to see that you recognize that Christ died for our sins and that the way to heaven is through him. You seemed to be espousing a different belief with your declaration that G-d wouldn't admit adulterers ever through the gates of heaven.

I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me (John 14:6)

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life (John 5:24).

[driftdiver]

“Ahhh, so now your debating like a libtard democrat, example, if I say I’m not in favor of hate-crime laws, then I must hate black people and belong to the KKK”

Ahh but you didn’t debate. You started throwing nazi commands. Debate would involve rational discussion and not “libtard”, “AWOHL! ! !” or “ALLES IN ORDNUNG ! ! ! !”

“You can’t disagree with someone without being for something completely different that is abhorrent.”

What she did is rape and most people on this thread are saying she did not rape the child. Most people on this thread on instead consumed with their own infantile fantasies.

The law says what she did is rape. Do you think the law should be changed? Or are you just arguing mindlessly like a libtard?

[rednesss]

I didn’t start throwing nazi commands, that was another poster. Check it out.

[driftdiver]

“It might have to do with my European socialization, but I can not find anything wrong with i.e. a 16 and a 18 year old person having consensual sex. No matter if Dad finds out or not and no matter if they are married or not”

Its legal for a 16 year old and an 18 year old to have consensual sex. My reference to the Dad was while it may be legal it may not be wise. In general I think promiscuity to be a very bad thing.

“Our European laws are also designed to protect kids from drooling perverts, but they do not restrict young adults in their natural rights”

That what our laws are designed for. In this case you have a teacher, a person in a position of authority who was 24 years old who seduced and had sex with a 14 year old on multiple occasions. She did this with his 14 year old friends in the car at the time.

People here are calling him lucky. Our law calls him a rape victim. How does a 24 year old find a 14 year old desirable? I don’t think they can unless what is actually turning them on is the position of power over another and not the actual sex. She clearly has enough physical beauty that she could easily find a partner in any bar on any night of the week. Why didn’t she do that unless she was playing the role of a predator?

Most of those calling him lucky would scream bloody murder if the genders were reversed. Its my position that gender and attractiveness of the 24 year old has no relevance.. Nor does the gender of the child.

[driftdiver]

“You seemed to be espousing a different belief with your declaration that G-d wouldn’t admit adulterers ever through the gates of heaven.”

He was right, God would not admit any sinner into heaven. However I believe that Christ paid for our sins and if we look to him then we are cleansed.

[driftdiver]

“I didn’t start throwing nazi commands, that was another poster. Check it out.”

Then why are you calling me a libtard?

[rednesss]

As far as whether she “raped” this lad, I can only go by my own memories and experiences while I was a 14 year old dude in high school, and there is no way in Hades that a chick that cute could have ever raped me. And like others have said, I would have definitely been bragging about it to my buddies in the locker room. The male psyche is not that fragile.

[driftdiver]

“As far as whether she “raped” this lad, I can only go by my own memories and experiences while I was a 14 year old dude in high school, and there is no way in Hades that a chick that cute could have ever raped me. And like others have said, I would have definitely been bragging about it to my buddies in the locker room. The male psyche is not that fragile.”

Dude, as a 14 year old you cannot legally consent to sex. Would it be ok if the genders were reversed?

“The male psyche is not that fragile.”

Guys like to think that but the reality is far different.

[rednesss]

"Then why are you calling me a libtard?"

If the shoe fits.......

[driftdiver]

“If the shoe fits...”

Ahh and I thought you were going to actually debate instead of tucking another bill into the hookers g-string.

Go back to your fantasies and stay away from my children.

[rednesss]

"Would it be ok if the genders were reversed?"

This is exactly the point that most of us here are trying to make is the double standard that exists today and the markedly anti-male philosophy that pervades these cases and society as a whole, look at divorce and custody issues. Some of us use sarcasm to get that point across, and some seem to get their panties in a wad over those sarcastic comments. Everybody seems to know which role what gender plays out in that scenario.

[ichabod1]

Another angle is that boys like that can lose interest in girls their own age.