Posted on 12/02/2007 6:06:55 PM PST by GOP_Raider
The 2007-08 bowl schedule (all times Eastern):
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Hey......you may stuff it any time you'd like, since you are obviously always so right as well. Sorry, Hawaii doesn't deserve this game, especially after their game against a very poor Pac Ten team like Washington.
To the Big Ten, there is no such thing as ‘a very poor Pac-10 team’. By the way, how did that Oregon game play out for you guys this year? That was a complete farce, Michigan didn’t even belong on the field with Oregon. That game could have been 70-10 if Oregon wanted to run it up. Also, as far as Washington goes, Ohio State needed three major breaks in the first half of their game against Washington to be down by only a couple points at the half. If Ohio State doesn’t get those breaks, they’re down by 20 and they lose, to the last place team in the Pac-10.
“There is one and only one reason for not having a playoff. That reason is the NCAA would control the playoff which would be a disaster.”
I don’t follow basketball, but are the basketball playoffs a “disaster,” in your view? Do you really think the bowls themselves having the control, as they do now, is more “fair”?
I don’t think you can compare basketball and football. I’m not sure what the arrangements are for funding. I do know what happened when the NCAA controlled television rights for college football. It was a disaster and I do not wish to give that kind of power back to the NCAA.
I trust the bowls and the major football conferences far more than I do the NCAA.
Let me expand a bit more on my remarks. While I do trust the bowls and the major conferences more than the NCAA, it’s more than a matter of trust. If you turn the playoffs over to the NCAA, you will have turned the playoffs over to the smaller schools who can outvote the major schools. This will cost the major schools money. While you may not see that as a major issue that should stop a playoff, it is something that will have to be addressed. The major schools are simply not going to give up the money they get in the present system if they have to share that money with the minor schools, even those schools who do not have a team in the playoffs.
This is by far the major issue that must be addressed in order to have a playoff. Sure, anyone can devise a playoff system that will work. That isn’t the problem. The problem is devising a playoff system where the revenuses from that system are controlled by the schools that are in the playoffs and not the NCAA. If you have a Div 1-A NCAA playoff, then by definition, it is under NCAA control.
Ohio State crushed Washington at the Huskies stadium. It was never in doubt, unlike some of UW's conference games against that vaunted Pac Ten.
You may have a worse case of brain disease than I thought.........
I just bought my tickets for the Meineke Car Care Bowl on the 29th...anyone else going?
Looks like two evenly matched teams.
“You’re the same guy that said USC would kill UCLA last year....”
You are dreaming, pal. Nobody out here who watches this conference ever feels all that confident playing anybody in the Pac-10. Unlike the Big Ten, you can lose any week in the Pac-10. I can go back and bring up specific posts that you made about Ohio State and Michigan, you couldn’t come up with anything close to what you claim I said regarding USC and UCLA. You just made it up to bolster your embarrassing position.
“reminds me of the famous game of childhood, “Shoots And Ladders””
Perfect analogy!
I understand your point. But I don’t like the fact that the bowls get to pick the teams to play in them. For example, Kansas got a BCS bowl while Missouri, who routed Kansas, got the shaft.
The BCS system makes no sense and is unfair. And because of it, most years (with few exceptions) it’s only a guessing game as to who’s really the best team.
To call it a “championship” game is ridiculous without a playoff.
“The BCS system makes no sense and is unfair. And because of it, most years (with few exceptions) it’s only a guessing game as to who’s really the best team. To call it a “championship” game is ridiculous without a playoff.”
Why would a championship game be less ridiculous? There seems to be an assumption here that the ‘best team’ always wins. What makes you think that a championship playoff would be won by the ‘best team’?
Take KS and MO. Do you think that MO would always win if they played multiple times? MO would win some and KS would win some. Probably split about even. Which is the ‘best team’?
So, if you had a playoff, would the ‘best team’ win? No, a college football playoff would be great entertainment but I wouldn’t be confident in claiming that the winner of the championship game was truely the “best team”. The winner, but not necessarily ‘the best team’.
The best team in the NFL doesn’t always win, but because they have playoffs they at least, for the most part, get the chance to play one another.
Not so with the BCS of course.
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to invite Alabama.
Thank-you!
I hate to tell you this, but last year's game against Florida is not a typical Ohio State bowl game under Tressel. It is NOT an annual egg.
OSU soaked up all the love from the press last year and didn't even show up to play. I think LSU had better learn from OSU's mistake if they really do want to win. Ohio State is not a pushover team.
Historically, both Ohio State and Michigan have losing records in their bowl games. Ohio State was at least approaching .500 in recent years, but for all the bluster their fans create, you’d think they would have a more impressive track record.
Michigan has had trouble in bowls under Carr, Ohio State has had trouble under Cooper.
Ohio State has held their own in bowl games in recent years (the stat that matters today, not 100 years record) in bowl games with the exception of last year and I think the first year under Tressel.
The bluster you talk about has always bothered me. It bothers me that some Buckeyes are rediculous. It bothers me that people who support other teams are rediculous. It's a game, not life and death.
I guess my point is, SEC supporters and LSU supporters in particular are acting as if the game will be a gimme. This is exactly what some at OSU thought last year.
Yes I am a Buckeye (BSME 1988). Yes I root for the team. Yes I want to see us redeem ourselves against the SEC record of the past, and I do think we have a good shot at it. We did play the "unbeatable" "fast" Miami of Florida in 2002. You can argue if you want that we really won that game, but the fact is, Miami was stunned Ohio State could keep up with them. I think LSU is wise to keep that in mind.
Well, I agree with you about the SEC. They hide in that conference, rarely venturing out to play meaningful games out of conference, and if they do, it’s almost never on the road. Then they clamor about how ‘tough’ their league is and explain away every loss as being justifiable because of how tough their league is. And they are getting away with it, given that every year they have all these teams ranked in the top 20 because they are guaranteed a 4-0 start with the lousy schedules they play. So they go .500 in league, end up 8-4, and go to a bowl every year. Great formula. I’ll hand it to Ohio State, at least they agreed to a home and home with USC the next two years, 2008-2009, and they played Texas similarly two years ago. Auburn and Arkansas played USC in back to back home/home beginning in 2002 I believe, and the great SEC teams went a collective 0-4 with none of the games really a contest. SEC championship contender Tennessee went out to Cal earlier this year and got waxed, and Cal ended up 7th in the Pac-10, without injuries to blame. They just aren’t that big of a deal. But Ohio State is young this year, so we’ll have to see if they are ready to step up under the spotlight.
I think Illinois was ther in '81 or '83 I believe.
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