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Apple iMac: Still the Desktop Star
BusinessWeek ^ | 11/14/2007 | by Cliff Edwards

Posted on 11/14/2007 12:48:06 PM PST by Swordmaker

A minimalist redesign, a zippy new OS, and terrific new software make the iMac the all-in-one desktop computer of choice for multimedia lovers

Editor's Rating:

The Good: Giant screen, easy-to-use software; plentiful ports for peripherals

The Bad: Pricey; no media card reader; no ability to upgrade optical drive to high-definition DVD

The Bottom Line: The updated iMac remains the champ for those looking for a multimedia PC

Zooming around a sharp corner while playing Electronic Arts' Need for Speed video game on my computer, I spun out of control, hit a guardrail, and sailed over a cliff to my doom. It's an outcome that's all too common now, but one that wasn't even possible until Apple began using zippy Intel (INTC) processors in its computers, prompting EA (ERTS) to create versions of its games for the iMac.

It's been just a year since Apple (AAPL) made the switch, and the iMac has very quickly become the machine to beat if you want an all-in-one desktop computer. Between its design makeover, new multimedia software, and the ability to play games once confined to Windows-based computers and dedicated game consoles, the iMac remains the undisputed champ even as rivals Gateway (GTW), Hewlett-Packard (HPQ), and Sony (SNE) step up their offerings.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; computer; geek; mac
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To: Blue Highway; antiRepublicrat; HAL9000; George W. Bush; N3WBI3
WOW! Now we have 500GB hard drives in 2005 for $39.95. You are a blowhard, Blue.

I don't believe you and I don't think anyone else reading this believes you either. You keep piling it on. Higher and deeper, Blue. I can believe reasonable bargains but I don't think you bought $400 hard drives in 2005 for 90% off. You are full of it.

61 posted on 11/15/2007 6:34:50 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker
Ok I earlier corrected my post by stating I just rounded it to under $80. And there were 400GB drives I bought for around $60. Also I never said I specifically bought a 500GB drive in 2005, thanks for putting words in my mouth. I said I bought my Dell in 2005. I never said I updated my computer all at once in 2005. The upgrades evolved from then till now. I did say I purchased these drives when they were "fairly new", which is a loose term. No it wasn't during the first week of a product launch when they command a premium for ridiculous prices like $200-$300, but I'm not looking to throw money away like that.

The company would NOT put this ad out intentionally and then piss off customers by refusing to honor it or to have sufficient stock on hand at each store.

Call it what you want but I recall when I went to 2 local Circuit City stores they had the tags still up (but conveniently they were out of stock) and I was there on a Wednesday (the ads begin on Sunday). If it was a typo of this magnitude the corporate office would have the store managers delegate to employees to have them removed and replaced with proper tags within the same day. For it to remain on shelf 3 days after the "typo" as you say, shows to me they were misleading customers.

62 posted on 11/15/2007 6:35:48 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Swordmaker
WOW! Now we have 500GB hard drives in 2005 for $39.95. You are a blowhard, Blue.

Look at the price scan it says 7/2007. If you can't read I cannot help you Swordmaker, sorry.

I don't believe you and I don't think anyone else reading this believes you either. You keep piling it on. Higher and deeper, Blue. I can believe reasonable bargains but I don't think you bought $400 hard drives in 2005 for 90% off. You are full of it.

Again, I never said 2005, talk about being way off base...

63 posted on 11/15/2007 6:37:52 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway; Swordmaker

$59 will get you a 400gb Western Digital on Black Friday

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=13265&t=646107


64 posted on 11/15/2007 7:04:53 PM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
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To: dennisw
So they get a motherboard and laptop hardrive and laptop memory modules crammed in there? And this sits on top of a slimline DVD drive?

The slimline DVD drive sits on top, but otherwise you are correct. It has one slim horn-shaped fan in there, but normally it runs so quiet it's hard to get measurements because of ambient noise. Deconstruction photos here.

65 posted on 11/15/2007 7:16:00 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Blue Highway
My point was more that I have rarely ever paid over $80 for the highest capacity drive at the time

That's just not how the market works. The $80 price range is more for drive sizes that came out a couple years ago. The current highest capacity is normally in the $300+ range.

66 posted on 11/15/2007 7:24:28 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I know how the market works and the current deal for $259 for a 1TB drive is probably as cheap as you can get right now. I did see a mention of a $200 price after rebate for a black friday deal. Come January or Febuary, if the price point is where I think it may be ($120-$150), then I’d be a willing buyer. Even a year from now 1TB drives will be considered higher capacity on the average. Will it be cutting edge at that point, no, but it will be much much cheaper. And at this point with many deals for 400/500/750 drives for cheap, if you buy 2 or 3 of them you get more GB/$ and that’s what I am looking for anyways, the best bang for buck.


67 posted on 11/15/2007 7:46:27 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Swordmaker
Found another old thread where I bought 2 of my Seagate 400GB SATA drives for $83.99. This was last year.

Seagate 400GB SATA for $109.99 FREE Shipping and Possible $26 Rebate = $83.99AR

And yes before you ask, the rebates worked.

68 posted on 11/15/2007 8:09:31 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway; antiRepublicrat; George W. Bush; rom; N3WBI3; HAL9000
Again, I never said 2005, talk about being way off base.

You didn't? Let me quote you from the post 33 which you claimed was evidence you had "debunked" the equivalence of cost between Macs and PCs.

"My Dell Dimension 4700C was a steal at $327 or something back in 2005. Came with a 17" flat screen LCD and a 3.2 P4 processor with a 40gb drive and 256mb of memory. I added 4gb of memory ($150 steal) another multitude of hard drives (5 400/500gb drives) less than $80 each when they were fairly new on the market."

500GB hard drives in the 3.5" format were "fairly new on the market" being released by the manufacturers between March and August of 2005. Prices ranged from $399 to $799 depending on speed and cache sizes. They didn't drop too much lower until the 750s started appearing over 9 months later and later the 1TB drives.

Looks to me that you certainly meant to say it... If not you heavily implied it to bolster your arguement. We have just called you on it and YOU started back peddling.

69 posted on 11/15/2007 8:26:32 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Blue Highway
I know how the market works and the current deal for $259 for a 1TB drive is probably as cheap as you can get right now.

Earlier...

My point was more that I have rarely ever paid over $80 for the highest capacity drive at the time

The highest capacity drive is never only $80, as you noted with your very low 1 TB price.

70 posted on 11/15/2007 8:28:14 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

ok maybe the “highest capacity at the time” wording wasn’t accurate. I am never the first kid on the block with the biggest hard drive. That would go against my own price spending rationale. Bottom line is I usually get a higher than average drive for a much cheaper than average price. I will be keeping an eye on 1TB prices. Once I see a sub $100 deal, I’ll be buying. The average price at that time of the deal will probably be $150-$170 if I had to take a guess.


71 posted on 11/15/2007 8:37:59 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Swordmaker

9 months after it first hits the market is still fairly new. Heck I didn’t realize 1TB drivew have been out for over a year now. I know when I look around for deals and I see “The biggest and best hard drive ONLY $379.99!!!” I tend to ignore it, thinking to myself, “I’ll pick one up when I can get it for cheap” and it isn’t much later when I do. If it is 6-9 months later when I get it I don’t tend to think it’s much later. Heck if I get a 1TB drive in early 2008 I will consider that to be fairly new as it still won’t be considered mainstream at that time. 500GB’s will be mainstream then.


72 posted on 11/15/2007 8:45:10 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: antiRepublicrat

Many thanks for the deconstruction photos!!


73 posted on 11/15/2007 11:31:26 PM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
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To: Swordmaker; Quix

I’ll also add that you can get a 5% discount if you are a small business, or are buying a Mac for business purposes. All you need is your business card.

The caveat is that you have to buy in-store.


74 posted on 11/16/2007 1:41:01 PM PST by rom (17" MacBook Pro. 30" Cinema Display. 1 Happy Programmer.)
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To: Swordmaker; rom

GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANKS TONS. Y’LL’S KIND RESPONSES ARE WELCOME ENCOURAGEMENTS TODAY.

Any hint that the subnotebook will have a viable keyboard?

Have a blessed weekend and Thanksgiving with all you hold dear.


75 posted on 11/16/2007 2:07:29 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: dennisw
Many thanks for the deconstruction photos!!

You're welcome. Whenever any new Apple product comes out there's always someone willing to blow his warranty by taking it apart and put the pics on the web. Someone even did it with a brand-new iPhone soon after the launch. Google something like "[product name] disassembly" or "[product name] autopsy" for any of them.

76 posted on 11/16/2007 2:42:24 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

There is one guy who pried apart his mini mac. Using sharpened putty knife. It’s a 21mg pdf. He really pulled it all apart. It’s sort of an upgrade manual too. Guys putting in larger hard drives etc.


77 posted on 11/16/2007 2:53:27 PM PST by dennisw (Islam - "a transnational association of dangerous lunatics")
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